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Message: [QUOTE="Carnac, post: 2115667, member: 5798"] While reading your post, I could not help but think of what Geno said about the "posture" and body language of the bench, and the mindset and attitude of the starters. There are a lot of differences between the two programs. None more glaring that the body language and cheer for others concept. Selfless play, running over to help a teammate up that's on the floor, passing the ball to an open teammate who has a better shot than you, etc. Holly and Geno are worlds apart in their approach to coaching. Positive body language. Geno DEMANDS it, and deals with it harshly if he doesn't see it, Holly does not. :confused: I could go on, but I think you get my drift. [/QUOTE]