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My guess is that the BE announcing that Memphis is joining in 2013, at this time, is only public posturing. The thought is that, as part of the mediation process, the BE will become agreeable to allow WVU out of the league early, IF....they are willing to pay ALL costs associated with Memphis leaving the C-USA for BE admittance in 2012. This would include Memphis' lost share of C-USA TV revenue in 2012. Hopefully these fees are also in addition to a hefty $20 mil plus price tag for breaching the original BE separation agreement. Because Memphis may be been willing to exit their league early in order to gain BE admission, I think this is THE major reason why Memphis has been selected to join the league at this time, and not one of the other schools discussed for 2013.
 
Let me get this straight: the Big East is prepared to let MEMPHIS replace WEST VIRGINIA in 2012, as long as WVU covers the cash?

Anyone who thinks this isn't batshit-crazy-insane needs to look at what the schedule will be again. Memphis. Memphis.


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zls44 said:
Let me get this straight: the Big East is prepared to let MEMPHIS replace WEST VIRGINIA in 2012, as long as WVU covers the cash?

Anyone who thinks this isn't bat****-crazy-insane needs to look at what the schedule will be again. Memphis. Memphis.


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It's the best they can do at this point. Boise St has already said it is too late to join the BE next year.
 
2Infinity said:
My guess is that the BE announcing that Memphis is joining in 2013, at this time, is only public posturing. The thought is that, as part of the mediation process, the BE will become agreeable to allow WVU out of the league early, IF....they are willing to pay ALL costs associated with Memphis leaving the C-USA for BE admittance in 2012. This would include Memphis' lost share of C-USA TV revenue in 2012. Hopefully these fees are also in addition to a hefty $20 mil plus price tag for breaching the original BE separation agreement. Because Memphis may be been willing to exit their league early in order to gain BE admission, I think this is THE major reason why Memphis has been selected to join the league at this time, and not one of the other schools discussed for 2013.
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i think you are on to someting. The cancellation of the FSU game just might be related to whats going on here. Sounds like morgantown is trying to offset some damages perhaps.
 
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whaler11 said:
Can you even imagine if UConn's home schedule next year is UMass, NCSU, Buffalo, Memphis, Cincy and Pitt.
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It may get worse than that. Word is that if WVU is allowed to leave early, that Pitt and Syracuse may do the same once the precedent is set. So the home schedule could look like UMass, NCSU, Buffalo, Memphis, Cincy, and Lehigh (or some other D1-AA schools since UMass is now officially D1-A and we don't have a D1-AA team on the schedule). How is that for a home schedule? No wonder UConn went with the early push for season tickets and allowed the payment plan option (without a refund option after first payment if canceled).
 
UConnSportsGuy said:
It may get worse than that. Word is that if WVU is allowed to leave early, that Pitt and Syracuse may do the same once the precedent is set. So the home schedule could look like UMass, NCSU, Buffalo, Memphis, Cincy, and Lehigh (or some other D1-AA schools since UMass is now officially D1-A and we don't have a D1-AA team on the schedule). How is that for a home schedule? No wonder UConn went with the early push for season tickets and allowed the payment plan option (without a refund option after first payment if canceled).
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We'll probably be getting some wins! We can go 6-0 on that schedule. Cincy has an insane QB. NC State would also be another to watch out for.
 
whaler11 said:
Memphis' second highest home attendance this year was 18k and it was for Austin Peay.

Edit: Published attendance was 18k. They probably don't really get 18k for 2 games combined.
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What was UConn's attendance in Memorial Stadium? When did we become attendance elitists?
 
Memphis has been to five bowls in the last decade. They suck now, but have had modest success, somewhat recently. I liked their HC hire. This a move to help the basketball league, with the hope that they can regain competitiveness in football.

I don't think the league is done expanding...
 
Butchy said:
I like that. With expansion franchises in Hartford, Cincinnati, Boise and Dallas. You forgot Orlando and Denver.
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I would have thrown Denver in but Air Force isn't committed yet. I did forget Orlando, or I may have forgotten UCF, it's hard to keep track.

The Houston Gamblers had a pretty cool logo.
 
Irish Loop said:
What was UConn's attendance in Memorial Stadium? When did we become attendance elitists?
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I've always been an elitist. Memorial Stadium and 1-AA hardly compares to a team in CUSA. Is their attendance really going to go through the roof? They already play in a conference with half the teams in the new league. Somehow SMU or UCF becomes a big draw because the field had Big East painted on it instead of CUSA?
 
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whaler11 said:
Somehow SMU or UCF becomes a big draw because the field had Big East painted on it instead of CUSA?
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GREAT question Whaler...You also summed up the end result of the new BE. What a disaster!
 
Disaster? Are you nuts? Marinnato is preparing a feast for the next BEC meetings. Fish tacos from SD, BBQ from Memphis, steaks from Houston, crab cakes from Annapolis, potatoes from Boise, and ice cream on a stick shaped like mouse ears from Orlando. All we're missing are rocky mountain oysters Denver, and craw fish from New Orleans.

All in all, I'd say the BE/CUSA/MWC merger is going quite well.
 
whaler11 said:
I've always been an elitist. Memorial Stadium and 1-AA hardly compares to a team in CUSA. Is their attendance really going to go through the roof? They already play in a conference with half the teams in the new league. Somehow SMU or UCF becomes a big draw because the field had Big East painted on it instead of CUSA?
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I don't see what the alternative is. ECU brings no television market, Temple, well, Temple is Temple... what were our other options? At least Memphis gives you basketball credibility.
 
Most of the hoops players that played at Memphis would have no chance of getting admitted to UConn or anyother Big East school. I don't know if their admissions standards would have to change with a BE membership. Most of the kids at Memphis would have rather gone to another school but Memphis was the best hoops school which they could attend.
 
UConnRock said:
Most of the hoops players that played at Memphis would have no chance of getting admitted to UConn or anyother Big East school. I don't know if their admissions standards would have to change with a BE membership. Most of the kids at Memphis would have rather gone to another school but Memphis was the best hoops school which they could attend.
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The teams people respect the most got started as renegade programs, or got started in an era when the NCAA didn't give a rats behind what anyone did. Why is it that now, renegades are bad? I think this entire league needs to go renegade to get up to par with the B12, the B1g, and the SEC. And da U. And USC. How else are we supposed to get there? I'd take partial qualifiers. This is about football relevance, not tea and crumpets on the Harvard lawn. We need to elevate. Then we can become more genteel.
 
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gars44 said:
The teams people respect the most got started as renegade programs, or got started in an era when the NCAA didn't give a rats behind what anyone did. Why is it that now, renegades are bad? I think this entire league needs to go renegade to get up to par with the B12, the B1g, and the SEC. And da U. And USC. How else are we supposed to get there? I'd take partial qualifiers. This is about football relevance, not tea and crumpets on the Harvard lawn. We need to elevate. Then we can become more genteel.
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Absolutely. Time to win games not worry about the the academics of football players. We can hold the rest of the student body to higher standards but the football and basketball players are hired guns. If we want to end up in a big revenue league, we need to win games and keep the brand in the news. I doubt we will go this route but I honestly can't see us competing with Memphis, Houston, SMU, Boise and UCF unless we do. Despite the constant whining on this board about the lowly schools we'll be playing, I think some will be blindsided by how good they will be and how fast it will happen. These schools are going to play to win, whatever that entails. The south doesn't play sports fair and we can't sit on a high horse expecting to win when we are held to higher standards.
 
UConnRock said:
Most of the hoops players that played at Memphis would have no chance of getting admitted to UConn or anyother Big East school. I don't know if their admissions standards would have to change with a BE membership. Most of the kids at Memphis would have rather gone to another school but Memphis was the best hoops school which they could attend.
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You don't even have to take your own SATs to get into Memphis.
 
gars44 said:
I'd take partial qualifiers.
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I totally agree with this. It boggles the mind that the Big East intentionally puts itself at a competitive disadvantage to the SEC. We are in a fight for survival and this rule needs to change. Montrell Dobbs could have been a game changing RB for us.
 
Da_Aisijimo_Gou said:
Acknowledging the Derrick Rose fake ID and test admission reference, the College Board website actualy suggests Memphis only requires the Reasoning portion of the SAT, or the ACT. If submitting the ACT, the writing section is optional". No BS!
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How does that even qualify someone to be a college student then?

What if I then wanted to take only the political science courses needed for my degree? Will Memphis give me my degree if I opt-out of taking all other portions of a full coarse load?
 
MattMang23 said:
How does that even qualify someone to be a college student then?

What if I then wanted to take only the political science courses needed for my degree? Will Memphis give me my degree if I opt-out of taking all other portions of a full coarse load?
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The irony of you ragging on Memphis for their low academic standards and then misusing the word "coarse" when you should have used "course" is funny. Very funny.
 
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Chin Diesel said:
The irony of you ragging on Memphis for their low academic standards and then misusing the word "coarse" when you should have used "course" is funny. Very funny.
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D*mn it. Touché.

Oh well... If that's the worst mistake I make today I'll still have a better day than John Marinatto had yesterday.
 
This sucks. Memphis was #5 or #6 on my list of mid-majors i would have wanted in the Big East.
 
I'm not thrilled about Memphis. Academics are poor and Memphis can be a rough place to live.

Football is mediocre at best, basketball is real good.

Fills a geographic void between Cincy, Louisville (who knows for how long with them) and the Texas schools.

As a fan, Memphis is easy to get in and out of from any east coast or midwest airport and it's a great place to visit as a fan. Great nightlife, food and history.
 
Imagine if instead of spending $150-200 million upgrading football, UConn spent it on a first-class BB/Hockey arena? They'd be in the exact same long-term situation conference-wise. But they wouldn't be throwing cash down the drain in football.

Sorry for the overdramatics, but, frankly, this sucks.
 
Chin Diesel said:
I'm not thrilled about Memphis. Academics are poor and Memphis can be a rough place to live.

Football is mediocre at best, basketball is real good.

Fills a geographic void between Cincy, Louisville (who knows for how long with them) and the Texas schools.

As a fan, Memphis is easy to get in and out of from any east coast or midwest airport and it's a great place to visit as a fan. Great nightlife, food and history.
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i'm relatively happy with Memphis for the last reason you list. to be honest, as a fan, what else do you possibly care about? i don't get why people complain about how parts of Memphis are a rathole. it's not like we're requiring you to spend a night there living on the streets as a part of BE admission. i've spent 3 or 4 days in Memphis on a little vacation and had an incredible time. for a weekend football trip i doubt there's many better places to spend a saturday night than Beale Street. academically it's in the same ball park as our current bottom feeders, and again, who gives a crap? it's not like it'll change the value of your UConn degree any more than a Duke degree is hurt by being in a conference with NCState.
 
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