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Looks like Abraham is in line to start at Georgetown.

HW611 said:
Smith is the backup PG.

Solo, Braylon, and Demary will probably all spend time at the 2.

Braylon, Demary, Solo, Stew, and Ross can all play the 3.

I just don’t get the hype for where Furphy fits on this years roster to carve out playing time that this board pushes while simultaneously making it seem impossible for Ross to have an impact.

I’m not spending too much time going back and forth. Just put me firmly in the camp that Furphy will see playing time more like freshman year Nowell, Stew, maybe even Ross and Abraham more than he will see playing time like a Solo, Andre, Clingan, etc.

Not sure if Ross will start this year (I’m not ruling it out), but he’ll be in the rotation heavy off the bench at minimum for that 2-3 wing spot is my prediction alongside Stew.
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Furphy outplayed most of next years first round nba picks in FIBA tournament. I think that tells you all you need to know. It will take some time for him to get acclimated but he is going to play plenty this season.
 
HW611 said:
Smith is the backup PG.

Solo, Braylon, and Demary will probably all spend time at the 2.

Braylon, Demary, Solo, Stew, and Ross can all play the 3.

I just don’t get the hype for where Furphy fits on this years roster to carve out playing time that this board pushes while simultaneously making it seem impossible for Ross to have an impact.

I’m not spending too much time going back and forth. Just put me firmly in the camp that Furphy will see playing time more like freshman year Nowell, Stew, maybe even Ross and Abraham more than he will see playing time like a Solo, Andre, Clingan, etc.

Not sure if Ross will start this year (I’m not ruling it out), but he’ll be in the rotation heavy off the bench at minimum for that 2-3 wing spot is my prediction alongside Stew.
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Ross isn’t starting this year barring injury. Most of the rest of your posts are normal dude-crushes on players type stuff but that’s crazy talk.
 
navery12 said:
It would be a big change if Hurley isn't cutting the rotation to 8 by Big East play like he's done every year. And it's not even really a case of Furphy or Ross not being good enough or deserving minutes, it's that there's already a minutes crunch for the top 8 without throwing a 9th guy into the mix
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Maybe I’m misremembering, but in my mind there was a reliable 9-man rotation through the whole Big East season in 2022-2023. It was only in the postseason that Hass didn’t see much time.
 
thekollieman said:
Maybe I’m misremembering, but in my mind there was a reliable 9-man rotation through the whole Big East season in 2022-2023. It was only in the postseason that Hass didn’t see much time.
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You're probably right. Minutes per game for each player:

Hawkins - 29.4
Jackson -29.1
Karaban - 28.9
Newton - 28.7
Sanogo - 26.6
Alleyne - 17.9
Calcaterra - 14.5
Clingan - 13.0
Diarra - 12.8

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HW611 said:
Joey C didn’t play much during big east play I believe. Diarra minutes were cut during the tourney.
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Big East Tournament or Big East regular season?

Kind of up and down but he was pretty consistently in the rotation. Especially the last 11 games of the season (including BET and NCAA Tournament). There were 5 games he played less than 9 minutes during the Big East regular season. Check out his minutes in each game.

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Joey Calcaterra - Men's Basketball - University of Connecticut Athletics

Joey Calcaterra (3) Guard - Before UConn: Transfers to UConn as a graduate student following a solid four-year college career at the University of San Diego…...
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thekollieman said:
Maybe I’m misremembering, but in my mind there was a reliable 9-man rotation through the whole Big East season in 2022-2023. It was only in the postseason that Hass didn’t see much time.
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9 guys played throughout the season, but in any given game it was still only 8. Hass played early in Big East play as Joey Calcaterra's minutes got cut. Then the last few games of the season Diarra had a few DNPs and mostly under 5 minutes
 
navery12 said:
9 guys played throughout the season, but in any given game it was still only 8. Hass played early in Big East play as Joey Calcaterra's minutes got cut. Then the last few games of the season Diarra had a few DNPs and mostly under 5 minutes
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I do recall feeling like certain games were either Joey games or Hass games so that makes sense.
 
RuffRuff said:
lol - you beat me to it. Now he’s downplaying Furphy to justify Ross. As if we didn’t have a whole season of watching Ross, and didn’t just watch Furphy lead Oz this summer. I’m calling this a man crush.
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me as well.....and didn't even try to disguise himself. Another whole season of this, sigh. Now the question is, is it a 2 for 1 now that there are 2 Ross's on the squad???
 
I think, if this was 20 or so years ago, Abraham could have become a UConn favorite. He does a lot of things very well but maybe not one thing exceptionally great. Maybe a bench guy for multiple years, working his way to being a starter, picking up a championship along the way. But, things change and he envisions a different path.
 
NJHoops said:
I think, if this was 20 or so years ago, Abraham could have become a UConn favorite. He does a lot of things very well but maybe not one thing exceptionally great. Maybe a bench guy for multiple years, working his way to being a starter, picking up a championship along the way. But, things change and he envisions a different path.
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No room for intelligent takes on the topic in this thread buddy, we’re on to Ross v Furphy now
 
navery12 said:
It would be a big change if Hurley isn't cutting the rotation to 8 by Big East play like he's done every year. And it's not even really a case of Furphy or Ross not being good enough or deserving minutes, it's that there's already a minutes crunch for the top 8 without throwing a 9th guy into the mix
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Just to piggyback sort of on your post, I do think that as a general practice this season, Hurley will be making more of an effort to decrease the minutes his primary five or six players are playing. By the game a few minutes less, each player across the board, spread out over the season, will help keep players fresher and injury free for when he really needs them in the tight spots of which there will be many. Hurley has the horses for this this season, ( Karoma, Ross, Furphy, Reibe, Smith). Other benefits would be a more aggressive defensive posture, and more buy in from non-starting players which can only add to team chemistry.
 
uconngb said:
me as well.....and didn't even try to disguise himself. Another whole season of this, sigh. Now the question is, is it a 2 for 1 now that there are 2 Ross's on the squad???
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Two for one, now that made me laugh. Is it weird to say I almost missed it? I love that he abbreviated his handle - maybe it’s a sign that he’ll abbreviate his Ross love?
 
Inyatkin said:
You're not? You probably should
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It honestly would not surprise me if he started in some nonzero number of games this season. Not saying he’ll be a bonafide starter, just that he might appear in a starting lineup at some point. No idea if this is the perspective HW611 was taking or not.
 
Lafayette said:
Does anyone think even as a college junior Ross would drop 24 on the U19 USA team? Doubt it.
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If Ross was one of the few D1 players on his team I don’t see why not.

The points have to come from somewhere.

Nuni Omet scored 24 for South Sudan against team USA in the Olympics. Does that make him an NBA player? How about the guy for Brazil who scored 30?
 
HW611 said:
If Ross was one of the few D1 players on his team I don’t see why not.

The points have to come from somewhere.

Nuni Omet scored 24 for South Sudan against team USA in the Olympics. Does that make him an NBA player? How about the guy for Brazil who scored 30?
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Well I don't think if it was Ross instead of Furphy on the Australia team (e.g., changing 1:1) he could body up AJ Dybantsa on D and score 24 for Australia.

He just is not ready to be a leader on any team - 2x we have heard he was amazing in practice, ready to start, etc. So fool us twice is about it. This year - we have to see the results else we have Hurley pumping up a player that barely contributes too many times in games - maybe one real chink in the armor but there it is.
 
The thing is, at our level if you don’t see regular minutes as a freshman you aren’t seeing them as an upper class man. Too easy to go out and get an upper class man or 3 from the portal or a new freshman. There aren’t any development projects at major programs any more. Only exception might, and I emphasize might, be a 7 footer. But a power forward, a point guard? No chance.
 
Lafayette said:
Well I don't think if it was Ross instead of Furphy on the Australia team (e.g., changing 1:1) he could body up AJ Dybantsa on D and score 24 for Australia.

He just is not ready to be a leader on any team - 2x we have heard he was amazing in practice, ready to start, etc. So fool us twice is about it. This year - we have to see the results else we have Hurley pumping up a player that barely contributes too many times in games - maybe one real chink in the armor but there it is.
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I'm leaning heavily on the fact that Ross is a product of Hurley loving "good families", that he's a great kid, lives/breathes Uconn, is a cultural leader. Net net, a binky. Evidence 1.0 presented to the jury is that he brought his brother onboard. The issue is that Danny likes to win more than he likes his binkies, although Samson truly pushed that notion to it's limit.

How much PT binky status gets Ross will be hard to predict. There was absolutely zero about his actual play last year that suggests he's getting significant minutes, but between some development and being a binky, who knows.

When you think about Samson last year, starting over a guy who Dan Hurley is calling a top 2-3 year center this year, it generally fortifies the fact that he has emotional ties to certain kids.
 
RuffRuff said:
I'm leaning heavily on the fact that Ross is a product of Hurley loving "good families", that he's a great kid, lives/breathes Uconn, it's a cultural leader. Net net, a binky. Evidence 1.0 presented to the jury is that he brought his brother onboard. The issue is that Danny likes to win more than he likes his binkies, although Samson truly pushed that notion to it's limit.
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The evidence IMO suggests you are on to something with this logic.
 
Hunt for 7 said:
The evidence IMO suggests you are on to something with this logic.
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Really can't judge it - we're all human, have our ways and I'm sure part of his rationale is around keeping his culture intact as a highest priority. Urban Meyer just came out with a quote regarding Hurley and how his culture of caring as much as he does about his players is what elevates all of their play, which is a hard to come by. I fully agree with that, so you can't really fault him for giving guys that bleed the program every shot to figure it out and contribute. It's why half the locker room was crying after last year's tourney loss.
 
RuffRuff said:
Really can't judge it - we're all human, have our ways and I'm sure part of his rationale is around keeping his culture intact as a highest priority. Urban Meyer just came out with a quote regarding Hurley and how his culture of caring as much as he does about his players is what elevates all of their play, which is a hard to come by. I fully agree with that, so you can't really fault him for giving guys that bleed the program every shot to figure it out and contribute. It's why half the locker room was crying after last year's tourney loss.
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Not judging, who am I to question what Danny thinks is best. And if as a team you are how you practice at the very least Ross is putting stress on the players who get the game minutes since by all accounts in practice he performs at an all conference level.

I have always thought more of Ross than he has shown in games. But all I was doing was putting together a guess on what other people were saying. Especially the NBA scouts, I think that was all true and couple that with what Danny was saying and clearly you can see the pure athleticism for his size.

He has a great family and he is loyal to a program I have loved since I was 10 years old. If anything I want to see this kid succeed because that would not only be great for him but really draw more attention too how good a coach Hurley is and maybe even a better person. While also showing why UConn is the best men’s college basketball program.
 
Jayden Ross must literally look like LeBron James in practice every day to get the leash he does..

That being said, I thought Abraham had a nice bag, in the limited action that I saw. Also that leads me to believe, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, it comes down to character.

Does that mean he's a bad guy, of course not, but it's not easy being the man for like 6 years and then not getting on the court for a whole season.
 
M.S.G. said:
Jayden Ross must literally look like LeBron James in practice every day to get the leash he does..

That being said, I thought Abraham had a nice bag, in the limited action that I saw. Also that leads me to believe, as someone mentioned earlier in the thread, it comes down to character.

Does that mean he's a bad guy, of course not, but it's not easy being the man for like 6 years and then not getting on the court for a whole season.
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I think you’re reading too much into it. Abraham wanted immediate PT and it wasn’t happening here.
 
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