(Link) Gary Parrish's Top 25 post-NBA draft

[nelsonmuntz]

Recruiting. They replaced the guy who went #2 in this year's draft with the early favorite to go #1 in next year's draft. Plus they added either the best or second best freshman point guard in the country, who I'm sure will be a lottery pick in next year's draft as well.

That's right. Some guy that has been tearing up the high school circuit is better than the #2 pick in this year's draft who was also one of the most heavily recruited prep school kids I can ever remember. Every single incoming freshman is the greatest player to ever play their position. At least until next year's class.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

That's right. Some guy that has been tearing up the high school circuit is better than the #2 pick in this year's draft who was also one of the most heavily recruited prep school kids I can ever remember. Every single incoming freshman is the greatest player to ever play their position. At least until next year's class.

First of all, talk about a strawman argument.

Secondly, not sure if you've noticed lately but most of these hot shot, 5-star recruits actually end up being pretty darn good in college. I'm well aware that Jabari Parker was a very good player and maybe none of Duke's incoming freshman will be as good individually. But they have 4 5-star recruits coming in next year. The previous class, with Parker, had 1.

It's actually not a very difficult concept. They lost some good players to the draft and they are replacing them with an even bigger crop of good players.

 

[nelsonmuntz]

First of all, talk about a strawman argument.

Secondly, not sure if you've noticed lately but most of these hot shot, 5-star recruits actually end up being pretty darn good in college. I'm well aware that Jabari Parker was a very good player and maybe none of Duke's incoming freshman will be as good individually. But they have 4 5-star recruits coming in next year. The previous class, with Parker, had 1.

It's actually not a very difficult concept. They lost some good players to the draft and they are replacing them with an even bigger crop of good players.

It is not a strawman argument when I repeat what you are saying.

Also, apparently freshmen > non-freshmen in basketball. Do players get worse while they are in college? You are right, it is not a hard concept.

 

[AtlHusky]

Also, apparently freshmen > non-freshmen in basketball. Do players get worse while they are in college? You are right, it is not a hard concept.

Do ALL freshmen come into college with equal skill sets and athleticism?

Are you trying to say that the HBF is saying all freshman > all non-freshman? He is not. That would be as silly as someone (maybe like you) that would try to say zero freshmen are > all non-freshmen.

Give it up already. You're losing yet another argument that, in your head, you think you're dominating.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

Also, apparently freshmen > non-freshmen in basketball. Do players get worse while they are in college? You are right, it is not a hard concept.

Since players get better while in college, shouldn't Cook, Sulaimon, Jefferson, and all the other Duke returners be better this year than they were last year?

So to summarize, Duke lost 2 studs, 1 nice role player, and 2 other guys who are completely forgettable. They replace those guys with 4 5-star recruits, plus the presumed improvement of every single other guy on their roster, which includes 3 starters from last year.

Sure sounds like a net improvement to me.

 

[Inyatkin]

Freshmen don't always live up their hype but they don't come in as a blank slate either. Pretending to have no idea how good these guys are likely to be makes no sense.

 

[Jerry1714]

Duke lost the guy that is probably the favorite to be rookie of the year, plus another 1st round pick, off a team that went out in the first round, and they will be better next year. Got it.

So a 1 man team is better then a team with 4 5 star recruits coming in? 1 who is projected to be the #1 pick? Ok got it.

Oh wait I bet you're one of those guys who think UK's model does not work.

 

[Edward Sargent]

Facey barely played last year because of his comical foul rate. Why anyone thinks that the media should assume he's poised for some sort of breakout season is beyond me.

Bruce , Bruce Bruce,