Lets be honest here, BCS jobs

[husky10]

I wish I had a reason to do the "Edsall Happy Dance" again.....

I may when PP is fired

 

[businesslawyer]

Am I wrong in my analysis?

Jesus wasn't popular in his day either with everyone.

You have overstated the point you are making by a good deal, but your underlying point -- that we accomplished much more during Edsall's tenure than a rational person would have expected -- is extremely unpopular and extremely accurate.

 

[Srqhusky]

To answer the original poster we have not been a fbs program as long as any of them. The fact that we got in a major conference and made it to a bcs bowl in as short a period of time is remarkable. We have many 8 win seasons to date, we are having a two year bad spell. Look up the schools you posted and count how many sub six win seasons each of them had and post your answer please

 

[johnhuskies95]

Edsall was very good at beating teams that were worse than UConn or as good as UConn. He just couldn't beat the teams that were better than UConn. That's why his record against ranked opponents at UConn was so pathetic.

Obviously now we would all take that over what we have now, but I think as a program we can get to a level where Cincy is/was, where they have won a ton of games over the last five years.

 

[Marty Jackson]

I remember when nobody thought that Oregon or Oregon St (both top ten today, both ranked numerous times over the past fifteen years) could ever play .500 football. I remember when experts felt that two wins in conference during any season was the best that Northwestern could ever hope for. I remember when the only thing of note about Kansas St football was that (up until ~ 1995) they had more no win seasons than they had .500 or better seasons (I believe it was 7-5 when Snyder first took over the program in the late 1980's).

I left out other success stories as some were from locations where they have inherent advantages over us and I'll even exclude Oregon due to Nike (Knight) money but two secondary state schools where there is not a load of HS talent and a small private school with ridiculously stringent academic requirements were able to turn their programs into something worth following. I refuse to believe that we cannot do the same.

Lot of Nike money at Oregon state as well...

 

[MattMang23]

UConn isn't a great job, but it's not the worst BCS job.

Good facilities, being the only game in town, being a big public, and having an administration that puts a premium on athletics are big advantages.

We are a better job than Duke, Wake, Indiana, Iowa State, Minnesota, Kansas, Colorado, and Washington State off the top of my head- though we probably can't afford to pay a coach as much as those schools can.

Our job is probably on par with BC, Cuse, Temple and the like. I think those are fair comparisons.

 

[TouchdownHusky]

Edsall was very good at beating teams that were worse than UConn or as good as UConn. He just couldn't beat the teams that were better than UConn. That's why his record against ranked opponents at UConn was so pathetic.

Obviously now we would all take that over what we have now, but I think as a program we can get to a level where Cincy is/was, where they have won a ton of games over the last
five years.

Biz says otherwise . . . Lol. But for many others, hard to argue with your observation

 

[TouchdownHusky]

UConn isn't a great job, but it's not the worst BCS job.

Good facilities, being the only game in town, being a big public, and having an administration that puts a premium on athletics are big advantages.

We are a better job than Duke, Wake, Indiana, Iowa State, Minnesota, Kansas, Colorado,
and Washington State off the top of my head- though we probably can't afford to pay a coach as much as those schools can.

Our job is probably on par with BC, Cuse, Temple and the like. I think those are fair comparisons.

This is major college football, we'd better be able to pay a coach as much as the schools younthink we can't. The ones you have us on par with are not really what we should be aspiring to be like. . . and they're all in the Northeast. We really need to create some separation from them and the unflattering way the rest of the country looks at this region.

 

[J187Money]

This is major college football, we'd better be able to pay a coach as much as the schools younthink we can't. The ones you have us on par with are not really what we should be aspiring to be like. . . and they're all in the Northeast. We really need to create some separation from them and the unflattering way the rest of the country looks at this region.

Agreed. There is a huge opening to own the NE if we get the right guy.

 

[uconNYC]

UConn isn't a great job, but it's not the worst BCS job.

Good facilities, being the only game in town, being a big public, and having an administration that puts a premium on athletics are big advantages.

We are a better job than Duke, Wake, Indiana, Iowa State, Minnesota, Kansas, Colorado, and Washington State off the top of my head- though we probably can't afford to pay a coach as much as those schools can.

Our job is probably on par with BC, Cuse, Temple and the like. I think those are fair comparisons.

We're paying our coach 1.6M that is more than what most of the schools on your list pay. Think we are clearly better job than Temple. We're on the same level as BC and SU though we probably have a higher ceiling as we are a flagship public university with a proven track record in big time college athletics.

 

[lsuconnman]

You can't ignore the underlying truth exhibited by the OP.

Because of this....

 

[lsuconnman]

Athletics programs can offer this: (multi million dollar facility for SOFTBALL!)

....when a top assistant coaching staff averages more than $500K/yr, you are forced to laugh at a school that pays their head coach little more than an intern.

Would anyone disagree with my argument that UConn needs to pay its head coach more than a SEC special teams coach? Or more disturbingly....if a top NCAA baseball coach makes $500K/yr, isn't a football coach worth 10x that amount????

 

[johnhuskies95]

Athletics programs can offer this: (multi million dollar facility for SOFTBALL!)

....when a top assistant coaching staff averages more than $500K/yr, you are forced to laugh at a school that pays their head coach little more than an intern.

Would anyone disagree with my argument that UConn needs to pay its head coach more than a SEC special teams coach? Or more disturbingly....if a top NCAA baseball coach makes $500K/yr, isn't a football coach worth 10x that amount????

Baseball is far more important at LSU than most other schools. Meanwhile, UConn almost always leads the country in attendance for soccer. Different interests for different schools.

 

[Adios]

Thankfully, we have more things to do around here than worship college teams as much as they do down south.

Keep in mind that the north created collegiate sports for you bored people down south.

 

[Adios]

Forgot to add. What a dumb fuckig original post. Comparing Edsall to Calhoun? What the were you drinking? Glue?

 

[BlueMAB]

Athletics programs can offer this: (multi million dollar facility for SOFTBALL!)

....when a top assistant coaching staff averages more than $500K/yr, you are forced to laugh at a school that pays their head coach little more than an intern.

Would anyone disagree with my argument that UConn needs to pay its head coach more than a SEC special teams coach? Or more disturbingly....if a top NCAA baseball coach makes $500K/yr, isn't a football coach worth 10x that amount????

There is one coach in the country making over $5 million/year in NCAA football. Mack Brown at Texas.

Chris Peterson is making $1.7 million/year.
Chip Kelly makes $2.8
UConn can find a great coach for $2 million/year.

Pasqualoni makes $1.6 this year, and it goes up yearly till 2015 at $1.9 million. Which SEC special teams coach is making $1.5-1.8 million a year?

 

[lsuconnman]

Baseball is far more important at LSU than most other schools. Meanwhile, UConn almost always leads the country in attendance for soccer. Different interests for different schools.

I agree. But.... when does UConn invest $20,000,000 to improve the Marrone facility? When can we expect a $75mil for a "student athlete learning" facility? When does the baseball team get a $20mil stadium? At the very least, doesn't Husky Nan's polo team deserve a $5mil stable???

 

[Adios]

I agree. But.... when does UConn invest $20,000,000 to improve the Marrone facility? When can we expect a $75mil for a "student athlete learning" facility? When does the baseball team get a $20mil stadium? At the very least, doesn't Husky Nan's polo team deserve a $5mil stable???

"Most recently in 2011, Morrone Stadium was named the FIFTH-BEST venue to watch soccer in the NCAA."

Does it really matter?

 

[BlueMAB]

Anyone care to explain why a head football coach gives a flying about the soccer stadium or baseball stadium?

Are the recruits visiting those facilities or the Burton/Shenkman $34 million facilities?

I thought the discussion was about the attractiveness of the job for a football coach.

 

[UConnDan97]

I agree. But.... when does UConn invest $20,000,000 to improve the Marrone facility? When can we expect a $75mil for a "student athlete learning" facility? When does the baseball team get a $20mil stadium? At the very least, doesn't Husky Nan's polo team deserve a $5mil stable???

Soon...

http://articles.courant.com/2012-02...-20120220_1_locker-rooms-uconn-plan-press-box

http://today.uconn.edu/blog/2012/02/athletics-establishes-stadium-enhancement-funds/

 

[UConnDan97]

Anyone care to explain why a head football coach gives a flying Fecundity about the soccer stadium or baseball stadium?

Are the recruits visiting those facilities or the Burton/Shenkman $34 million facilities?

I thought the discussion was about the attractiveness of the job for a football coach.

Absolutely true. Also, what he perhaps didn't realize is that all of that is in the works anyways (as per my previous post)...

 

[johnhuskies95]

I agree. But.... when does UConn invest $20,000,000 to improve the Marrone facility? When can we expect a $75mil for a "student athlete learning" facility? When does the baseball team get a $20mil stadium? At the very least, doesn't Husky Nan's polo team deserve a $5mil stable???

Louisiana is a much bigger state than Connecticut and they care A LOT more about college athletics. Hence, it's going to be easier to fundraise for newer facilities.

UConn doesn't want to be LSU and LSU doesn't want to be UConn. We don't need to try and jam a square peg into a round hole here.

 

[uconNYC]

Athletics programs can offer this: (multi million dollar facility for SOFTBALL!)

I don't get it. We have championship teams in B-ball, Womens B-ball, Soccer, Field Hockey. Our Womens Basketball and Soccer teams have the highest average attendance in the country. He have terrific football facilities and an amazing basketball facility is on the way. Not sure why we need to be envious of anyone.

Our (very recent) struggles in football is not because of a lack of budget or institutional support.

 

[metsfan2323]

Jesus wasn't popular in his day either with everyone.

You have overstated the point you are making by a good deal, but your underlying point -- that we accomplished much more during Edsall's tenure than a rational person would have expected -- is extremely unpopular and extremely accurate.

Good Grief.

The OP states we are beneath Temple and you compare him to Jesus just because he complimented your man crush by equating his success here to Calhoun's. I hope your blood sugar was low when you did this.

Randy Edsall, a man with a career record of 80-83 with no top 25 finishes and a home loss to Paul Pasqauloni a few weeks ago.

 

[MattMang23]

This is major college football, we'd better be able to pay a coach as much as the schools younthink we can't. The ones you have us on par with are not really what we should be aspiring to be like. . . and they're all in the Northeast. We really need to create some separation from them and the unflattering way the rest of the country looks at this region.

"We'd better be able to"

"Aspiring to be like"

"Need to create"

I agree with you, but the difference is you're looking at it hypothetically, while I'm looking at it realistically.

Yes, we SHOULD pay coaches. We SHOULD NOT aspire to be like Cuse or BC (note, I never said we should), and we SHOULD try to create separation from them. But overall, we haven't. We are on par with them right now.

Our school isn't any more or less attractive- which is why we battle those schools for recruits- we are a mediocre job even though we should try to be more.

 

[EdgewoodNHV]

People that hated on Edsall piss me off. What he did here in less than 15 years (bringing us to a BCS bowl) ranks up there with what Calhoun did. Yeah I said it. Fecundity off if you don't agree. Our program is a joke and there isn't a BCS program in the country we can consider ourselves better than

It's not that we hated on Edsall. It's that all of your pining away for the ex-girlfriend who dumped you isn't doing you any good. She ain't coming back, man, and all your wistful thinking about the good old days ain't rebuilding this program.