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i am sorry. ranked 4th in the preseason. picked to finish top 3 in big east. atleast 3 kids transfering. 2013 postseason ban for a horrible apr. guess you are right. this has nothing to do with the coaching staff. its ao's fault. maybe a bit scoe's as well. its all about the media's inaccurate reporting and certainly 100% the ncaa's fault. the coaching staff has nothing to do with it. posters like you need to face reality. you refuse to take any accountablitiy much like the staff itself. there should be a statue of coach calhoun outside of gampel for all that he has accomplished but that doesnt mean what has transpired is a complete disgrace. rather than give the entire staff immunity for shocking everyone with one of the best runs in the history of collegiate atheletics, maybe instead use that as a barometer for how far we have fallen in exactly 1 year. 1 year!!!!!! stop blaming everyone else for uconn's misfortune. and for the record, i never said the staff sucked. i suggested that for the past year, they have not reached anything close to the standards calhoun has set over the past 20 years. i would ask you to explain to me how uconn will lose out on a recruit to cincy but i suppose you will say its the kid's fault for not acknowledging uconn's rich history or for wanting to play for a hall of fame coach, etc. etc. etc. get real. this staff hasto start taking accountability for why we are here and admit that they are falling far below the same bar calhoun once set so high. it would also help for the fanbase to do the same. ah nevermind, we won a championship in 2011. its all good in husky land.
Yeah the last 2 or 3 years of this staff's tenure might not be great. But they got us 3 national titles in a 12 year span and created something out of nothing at this university for roughly 25 years. As long as they put us in good shape for after they leave (get all the scholarships back, tournament eligible, leave us with a solid roster), you would have to be insane to not be happy with this staff.
 
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This is true at just about every school besides UConn since the early 2000's. In the 90's the kind of player we featured at the 4 included Donny Marshall and Kevin Freeman, guys with similar size and skills as Roscoe.

But in the early 2000's JC went bigger, with 2 pure post players (e.g. Okafor and Selvie, Okafor and Boone) and 3 guards. Then in the mid-2000's JC wanted an even bigger lineup, with two pure post players (Boone and Armstrong, Adrien and Thabeet, Drummond and Oriakhi) and a 3 that was more of a forward than a guard. This is where the Rudy-Sticks-Roscoe lineage comes from.

Personnel would force Roscoe to play the 4 next year. And the way JC has constructed his offense over the last decade, the 4 is pretty much restricted to the post, while Roscoe wants to be featured on the wing (whether his skills merit that or not).

I'd comment that most college teams play a guy like Roscoe at the 4, but that their 4 is typically a guy who can play some on the wing: Jae Crowder, Joe Alexander, Kyle Singler come to mind.

I agree with all of this except the part about Roscoe playing post as a 4, that has definitely not been the case during his time at the 4 the past 2 years. Defense yes, but he's been out on the perimeter on offense. Even Tyler operated pretty much exclusively in the high post as the season went on and not on the block.
 
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Yeah the last 2 or 3 years of this staff's tenure might not be great. But they got us 3 national titles in a 12 year span and created something out of nothing at this university for roughly 25 years. As long as they put us in good shape for after they leave (get all the scholarships back, tournament eligible, leave us with a solid roster), you would have to be insane to not be happy with this staff.

you have to be insane to not realize that jim calhoun has done the best construction of a program in any sport at any collegiate level. i see that. i have said many times that there should be a statue of him outside of gampel. but that doesnt make him any less accountable for where we are today. .....so are you happy with where we stand as a program today?
 
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I am on #teamScoe and have been for a while. With that being said, if he wants to play wing UCONN is not the place. He is a classic Tweener.

6'7 , 210 with a 6'9, 235 lb game. His strengths are energy, toughness, defensive presence. His weaknesses are ballhandling(none), strength, passing vision. Ideally he'd be a stretch 4 if he gets his head on right. He will not be an NBA player so he'd better concentrate on making his mark in college

all the best to 'Scoe he was an absolutely integral part of that National Championship his grit really got us through a couple of times.
 
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first off good luck to the kid and i hope he turns into a great player and young man a couple years from now. he has a family member who lurks here, thanks for joining the uconn family and goodluck to scoe. is MD his #1? scoe won a ship with is a was a great piece for that team just like alex was. but there was a huge difference.

scoe was a highly ranked recruit we landed in what was our first doom year with the ncaa. remeber doug g on air telling scoe to leave uconn commit wise? wild ride for the kid i bet. scoe never developed in his 2 years. he flashed potential in a lot of areas of the game but never put it together. he also didn't hit the weight room as well as i though over the summer. that would be a visual of his jumping year 1 vs 2, how many shots he had blocked and rbs. he was good on d no doubt, but so are alot of guys at the 3 with his lenght/size. his offense never came around especially shooting the ball. every once in a while he would drain a mid range or 3 and i would think of he here comes...but it never got put together. we also here are used to wings that jump out of the gym and drive looking to asult people. scoe was neither of those, so the rudy and stix and caron types of stuff were used to didn't happen. JC's system doesn't work for scoe somewhat also becuas ehe can drive and he can't shoot, so all he could do was play good d, which he did. but that doesn't get you(scoe) what your looking for playing ball.

I would say im suprised he transfered, but i'm not. he needed to go elsewhere and find a way to develope his game becuase it wasn't happening here. early last season scoe was late to a class i was told which as punishment led him to not starting a couple games. dd got starts and those early games him and lamb were hot from the field and they took off. it took scoe a while to get back in it after that point. scoe needs to go somehwere new and start over with a transfer year off plus 2 more on the court. he still has the potential to blow up but he needs to put 100% into it from all angles.

the only reason why ppl are suprised by this is becuase we have a empty roster minus some guards and some raw big guys, so the pt here is so good why would any 1 leave. thats the thinking. but if you sit back and think about it its a obvious one. 2 guys looking like they could pass him at his spot among other reasons on the court that were yelled about all season. but all the pt here couldn't help scoe, hes needs a change. so be it. good luck mr. smith, we will all be rooting for you. thanks.
Well said..I couldn't have said any better myself..
 
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you have to be insane to not realize that jim calhoun has done the best construction of a program in any sport at any collegiate level. i see that. i have said many times that there should be a statue of him outside of gampel. but that doesnt make him any less accountable for where we are today. .....so are you happy with where we stand as a program today?
No I am not happy and I have never said Calhoun should not be held accountable - but do you really think the NCAA has been fair in all this ?? Stop reading the preseason rankings. I think we were ranked 9th in the Big East and won the National Championship. We lose out on top recruits every year. It is also not Calhouns fault the NBA is drooling over Drummond - If he came back next year with Lamb there would be no problem with the transfers. You really think Scoe and AO are doing the right thing ?? Calhoun could be like Bo Ryan and not let them go where they want to but he released them with no strings attached.
 

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"players are losing confidence in the program and each other". Pure speculation. Another over the top statement without any facts. Roscoe wanted to play the 3 and he just isn't the right player for that position at Uconn. He is only a 42% shooter and 24 % from 3. 65% from the line. Also he doesn't go to the hoop very well , probably because he doesn't have a good handle with the ball. His minutes were down from25 to 18 last year and he decided to move. It happens. We are one year removed from a NC. Need to give it a little time to see if there is a problem. Just don't see it yet.

Huh? Down to 8 schollie players and you don't see a problem??? An HOF coach who may or may not be around in the future, and you don't see a problem??? Banned from league tourney and NCAA tourney play and you don't see a problem???????
If Gampel burned down, would that be a problem?
 
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