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Agreed but Miles has multiple 4 & 5 stars and his strategy for reasons stated in this thread is a defensive oriented with an offense lacking in explosive plays. He has been on the hot seat for the last several years. I like him and agree that he is an excellent football coach but he hasn't been producing to LSU standards.

Obviously Bob Diaco needs to produce quickly as well. I have been a big fan of his but right now the team is not passing the eye ball test!

And that's not Saban's strategy? He's a defense first coach as well, and hardly runs a spread offense most of the time. I'm not saying LSU's offense it couldn't be better, it could. But running an offense that passes 80% of the time is a recipe for beating bad teams and losing to good ones.
 
And that's not Saban's strategy? He's a defense first coach as well, and hardly runs a spread offense most of the time. I'm not saying LSU's offense it couldn't be better, it could. But running an offense that passes 80% of the time is a recipe for beating bad teams and losing to good ones.


Have you watched Alabama under Lane Kiffin? They score 40 every week while LSU is (12 years into Miles' tenure) losing to a team that didn't score a TD in the game. LSU runs like 70%. They are not even remotely balanced.

The administration told Miles to fire his buddy (Cam Cameron), and Miles refused. They both got fired then. Wish UConn would have done something similar 5 years ago.
 
Have you watched Alabama under Lane Kiffin? They score 40 every week while LSU is (12 years into Miles' tenure) losing to a team that didn't score a TD in the game. LSU runs like 70%. They are not even remotely balanced.

The administration told Miles to fire his buddy (Cam Cameron), and Miles refused. They both got fired then. Wish UConn would have done something similar 5 years ago.

Alabama scores points but they don't do it by running a spread offense or anything close to it.
College Football Stats - College FB Team Passing Play Percentage on TeamRankings.com

Alabama ranks 91st in passing percentage at 42.77%. UConn by the way, is 69th at 46.64%, and that is with Shireffs running on called pass plays. LSU throws more than Alabama does. A dominant run game is still the best way to win football games. Most of the teams that throw the most are terrible.
 
Alabama scores points but they don't do it by running a spread offense or anything close to it.
College Football Stats - College FB Team Passing Play Percentage on TeamRankings.com

Alabama ranks 91st in passing percentage at 42.77%. UConn by the way, is 69th at 46.64%, and that is with Shireffs running on called pass plays. LSU throws more than Alabama does. A dominant run game is still the best way to win football games. Most of the teams that throw the most are terrible.
When you can recruit the size Bama can, yes that is true. Most schools can't hence all of these innovative offenses. UConn needs to adapt, clearly.
 
Alabama scores points but they don't do it by running a spread offense or anything close to it.
College Football Stats - College FB Team Passing Play Percentage on TeamRankings.com

Alabama ranks 91st in passing percentage at 42.77%. UConn by the way, is 69th at 46.64%, and that is with Shireffs running on called pass plays. LSU throws more than Alabama does. A dominant run game is still the best way to win football games. Most of the teams that throw the most are terrible.


LSU does not throw more than Alabama on average. LSU has had to try and comeback in 2 games, which upped their %. Last year, LSU threw 36.80% of the time. The year before it was also around 35%. That is terrible. By comparison, Bama has been exactly the same as they always are, at about 42%.

The real issue is not number of passes thrown though. LSU constantly only runs 1 and 2 receiver routes off of play fakes. They run the fade and the fly pattern with regularity. There is ZERO innovation in their routes and scheme. LSU TEs had like 5 catches all of last year.
 
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The reality is too is that Les Miles doesn't need the money I'm sure, but he's probably going to have to go back to a lower-level school as HC just like Petrino did. He is 62 however, so the question is does he need to/want to be doing this still?

I've heard Herman and Art Briles names thrown around for the LSU job. Funny you never hear much about where the former HC might go to next.
 
The reality is too is that Les Miles doesn't need the money I'm sure, but he's probably going to have to go back to a lower-level school as HC just like Petrino did. He is 62 however, so the question is does he need to/want to be doing this still?

I've heard Herman and Art Briles names thrown around for the LSU job. Funny you never hear much about where the former HC might go to next.
Miles will not be unemployed long. He may be coaching ND next year..............
 
When you can recruit the size Bama can, yes that is true. Most schools can't hence all of these innovative offenses. UConn needs to adapt, clearly.

According to the ourlads site ...

Alabama Starting OL:

LT Cam Robinson 6'6" 310lbs
LG Ross Pierschbacher 6'4" 304lbs
C Bradley Bozeman 6'5" 319lbs
RG Alphonse Taylor 6'5" 345lbs
RT Jonah Wiliams 6'5" 296lbs
Average = 6'5" 315lbs

UConn Starting OL:
LT Matthew Peart 6'7" 304lbs
LG Brendan Vechery 6'6" 309lbs
C Ryan Crozier 6'4" 300lbs
RG Richard Levy 6'6" 316lbs
RT Andreas Knappe 6'8" 325lbs
Average = 6'6" 311lbs

Not sure size is the difference ...
 
LSU standards - come on now. LSU has won three titles in the late 58, 03 and 07. Miles has one of those and he's got another title game appearance.

Expectations and standards are two different things. I grew up hearing about the LSU Chinese Bandits of Dietzel when they won the title in 58 so I have a bit of historical perspective. There's huge expectations in Baton Rouge but goodness the guy averaged like 10 wins a year over 11 years - last two years have been his worse, but the guy didn't forget how to coach.

Ed O is a recruiting machine, head coaching not so much.

Standards or expectations for a top line program like LSU are daunting. I am aware of the storied history of the Bayou Tigers. Unfortunately we live in a world of "what have you done for me lately". Thinking Lane Kiffin may be the next LSU coach. Miles has said he is not done coaching. He should land a good gig. It is similar to Steve Spurrier going to South Carolina after many years with the Gators.
 
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According to the ourlads site ...

Alabama Starting OL:

LT Cam Robinson 6'6" 310lbs
LG Ross Pierschbacher 6'4" 304lbs
C Bradley Bozeman 6'5" 319lbs
RG Alphonse Taylor 6'5" 345lbs
RT Jonah Wiliams 6'5" 296lbs
Average = 6'5" 315lbs

UConn Starting OL:
LT Matthew Peart 6'7" 304lbs
LG Brendan Vechery 6'6" 309lbs
C Ryan Crozier 6'4" 300lbs
RG Richard Levy 6'6" 316lbs
RT Andreas Knappe 6'8" 325lbs
Average = 6'6" 311lbs

Not sure size is the difference ...

dont know how many times i need to say this, its not always size and strength, technique and skill will beat size and strength almost every day of the week.
 
dont know how many times i need to say this, its not always size and strength, technique and skill will beat size and strength almost every day of the week.
So you are saying we still have a chance?
 
He said "its not always size and strength..." Which means, sometimes it is. Which means we still have a chance! Great Success!

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He said "its not always size and strength..." Which means, sometimes it is. Which means we still have a chance! Great Success!


exactly sometimes you just run into a guy that is so much more athletically gifted in size and functional strength that technique wont be able to overcome the short comings.
 
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LSU went for 630+ yards tonight. Coaching not scared. Hmmmmmm........
 
According to the ourlads site ...

Alabama Starting OL:

LT Cam Robinson 6'6" 310lbs
LG Ross Pierschbacher 6'4" 304lbs
C Bradley Bozeman 6'5" 319lbs
RG Alphonse Taylor 6'5" 345lbs
RT Jonah Wiliams 6'5" 296lbs
Average = 6'5" 315lbs

UConn Starting OL:
LT Matthew Peart 6'7" 304lbs
LG Brendan Vechery 6'6" 309lbs
C Ryan Crozier 6'4" 300lbs
RG Richard Levy 6'6" 316lbs
RT Andreas Knappe 6'8" 325lbs
Average = 6'6" 311lbs

Not sure size is the difference ...
Try size and quick feet and maybe the blocking scheme. Please bring back Mike Foley if you plan on Smash Mouth football.
 
Interestingly, Houston has zero OLs over 300

LT 74 Josh Jones 6-5 280 RFr.
LG 76 Kameron Eloph* 6-3 294 So.
C 69 Will Noble* 6-4 290 So. 4
RG 73 Marcus Oliver** 6-3 295 Jr.
RT 51 Na’Ty Rodgers 6-5 292 Jr.
 
I have said if Diaco can recruit Alabama type of players, we can be successful playing smash mouth football. Since we can't, we better adapt and run the spread like rest of the college.
 
dont know how many times i need to say this, its not always size and strength, technique and skill will beat size and strength almost every day of the week.
And quickness.
 
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Sadly HCBD is still trying to recruit like he did at ND.

HCBD is clearly on record saying he wants" big guys" since you can't coach size. Unfortunately the good big guys (particularly the O-line) go to the big name programs. The difference between the Bama O-line and UConn O-line is very small in terms of size but huge in athleticism and agility. Bottom line, while at ND, HCDB was able to recruit the atheltic big men...that won't consistently happen at UConn.

If UConn is going to succeed they are going to need to seek out that undersized player who plays his heart out and performs above his weight class. I'd much prefer a smaller, mobile O-line to the disaster UConn has now. It is a lot easier to recruit and scheme at a power program (although the pressure to win is greater). If HCBD is going to succeed at UConn he is going to need to be more creative and adaptive. "This is the type of player I recruit and this is the system we run" won't work against the big boys especially if they are recruiting the same type player.

Spread offense and attacking defenses were created to offset the size advantages of the big power programs. "Big and slow" will not trump "big and fast" nor will it beat "small and fast"...the Houston game proved that...
 
Sadly HCBD is still trying to recruit like he did at ND.

HCBD is clearly on record saying he wants" big guys" since you can't coach size. Unfortunately the good big guys (particularly the O-line) go to the big name programs. The difference between the Bama O-line and UConn O-line is very small in terms of size but huge in athleticism and agility. Bottom line, while at ND, HCDB was able to recruit the atheltic big men...that won't consistently happen at UConn.

If UConn is going to succeed they are going to need to seek out that undersized player who plays his heart out and performs above his weight class. I'd much prefer a smaller, mobile O-line to the disaster UConn has now. It is a lot easier to recruit and scheme at a power program (although the pressure to win is greater). If HCBD is going to succeed at UConn he is going to need to be more creative and adaptive. "This is the type of player I recruit and this is the system we run" won't work against the big boys especially if they are recruiting the same type player.

Spread offense and attacking defenses were created to offset the size advantages of the big power programs. "Big and slow" will not trump "big and fast" nor will it beat "small and fast"...the Houston game proved that...
Yup. I have been saying for quite some time that the OL needs to trade some body mass for agility and quickness.
 
Yup. I have been saying for quite some time that the OL needs to trade some body mass for agility and quickness.

Or you better be able to coach up those big guys. Which seems to be the underlying issue - a lot of our guys on the line just aren't making big enough strides year to year.
 
Has been fired along with Cam Cameron.

I found it interesting that interim LSU head coach , Ed Orgeron credits PP for giving him a second chance at D1 football at Syracuse. Ironically PP is currently D-Line coach at BC. This is the same position Orgeron had at LSU prior to taking the interim HC position.

" Orgeron returned to coaching in 1994, but as a volunteer linebackers coach at Nicholls State University.[7] The following year, he moved from the south to the northeastern U.S., accepting a job with head coach Paul Pasqualoni's staff at Syracuse University, where he coached defensive line for three years.[5][8] Orgeron credited Pasqualoni for giving him a second chance at major-college coaching (after his prior personal issues had damaged his 'hireability'), and, helping him develop as a coach on- and off-the-field."

Ed Orgeron - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Les Miles sucks as a coach. He's only won a national championship at LSU, 2 SEC championships, 3 SEC West Championships (in a conference with 'Bama and Auburn) and leaves with the highest winning percentage in the history of LSU football. Why in the world would we want him as a coach.

Seriously, some of you make freedom of speech look like a bad idea.

I agree Les Miles is a great coach but he is a Defensive oriented coach. The question then becomes, what's so terribly different about the same logic Hathaway applied in justifying the hiring of Paul Pasqualoni? Winningest coach in Big East History. 8 top 25 finishes, 4 Big East Championships, 1 New England Conference Championship, 6-3 bowl record, 107-59-1 record at Syracuse. Defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys, etc., etc. Ironically PP was around the same age as Miles is now, 62 when he took the UCONN job. Pasqualoni's side kick , O coordinator was George Deleone and Miles had similar allegence to Cam Cameron. Both have been rumored to have contributed mightily to their respective firings.

As much as It would be sexy to have an SEC great such as Les Miles come to Storrs, I am afraid Husky fans would be treated to nothing more than Paul Pasqualoni II. Although, I will admit, the press conferences would be more entertaining!

I would much rather see a young up and coming coach similar to former Memphis Head coach Justin Fuentes now at VA Tech or former Toledo and now Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell. Former Ball State Head coach and current Associate HC at Maryland is another coach, Pete Lembo is someone I always admired. Another favorite is former UCONN OC/QB coach Joe Moorhead currently OC/QB coach at Penn State.

Too soon to tell at the moment, I have to see how Diaco finishes the season.
 
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I agree Les Miles is a great coach but he is a Defensive oriented coach. The question then becomes, what's so terribly different about the same logic Hathaway applied in justifying the hiring of Paul Pasqualoni? Winningest coach in Big East History. 8 top 25 finishes, 4 Big East Championships, 1 New England Conference Championship, 6-3 bowl record, 107-59-1 record at Syracuse. Defensive coordinator of the Dallas Cowboys, etc., etc. Ironically PP was around the same age as Miles is now, 62 when he took the UCONN job. Pasqualoni's side kick , O coordinator was George Deleone and Miles had similar allegence to Cam Cameron. Both have been rumored to have contributed mightily to their respective firings.

As much as It would be sexy to have an SEC great such as Les Miles come to Storrs, I am afraid Husky fans would be treated to nothing more than Paul Pasqualoni II. Although, I will admit, the press conferences would be more entertaining!

I would much rather see a young up and coming coach similar to former Memphis Head coach Justin Fuentes now at VA Tech or former Toledo and now Iowa State head coach Matt Campbell. Former Ball State Head coach and current Associate HC at Maryland is another coach, Pete Lembo is someone I always admired. Another favorite is former UCONN OC/QB coach Joe Moorhead currently OC/QB coach at Penn State.

Too soon to tell at the moment, I have to see how Diaco finishes the season.

Les Miles isn't coming here. But you realize I hope that the failure of a coach does not mean that every future candidate with whom you find some similar characteristics on the resume means that everyone else here will fail to?

I can't not hire future lawyers because the last one we had who failed is also coming out of a law school and starting a career.
 
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