Leave nothing on the field

[freescooter]

You are either hurt and can't play or you can play. If Boyle was hurt last year He shouldn't have played. It was completely unneccesary. If he was ineffective because he was injured Whitmer should have taken the snaps.

 

[whaler11]

LOL, yup, which is why I was asking Whaler if that was a coaching lie. I saw it reported that there was surgery... unless Whaler was right, and we were lied to about the surgery as well...

Ah, love this place...

Well if you remember or go read the quotes Diaco quite clearly said he WASN'T injured. So having surgery with no injury is strange.

Diaco was party to a charade on the sport's biggest platform at one of the sport's biggest schools. You'll note that Te'o and Notre Dame actually never came clean - Deadspin broke the story.

If you look at what happened with Boyle you have two choices:

1. Diaco lied about injuries
2. Diaco has no idea what the hell he is doing.

You love this place? I love that some of our best and brightest think they are defending Diaco by arguing he didn't lie.

 

[Waquoit]

I'd say he's pretty comfortable with lying.

But the lies don't bother me as much as the truth. Diaco said that he needed two weeks off after playing Army. Army!

 

[J187Money]

You are either hurt and can't play or you can play. If Boyle was hurt last year He shouldn't have played. It was completely unneccesary. If he was ineffective because he was injured Whitmer should have taken the snaps.

Exactly.

 

[RedSoloCup]

Well if you remember or go read the quotes Diaco quite clearly said he WASN'T injured. So having surgery with no injury is strange.

Diaco was party to a charade on the sport's biggest platform at one of the sport's biggest schools. You'll note that Te'o and Notre Dame actually never came clean - Deadspin broke the story.

If you look at what happened with Boyle you have two choices:

1. Diaco lied about injuries
2. Diaco has no idea what the hell he is doing.

You love this place? I love that some of our best and brightest think they are defending Diaco by arguing he didn't lie.

Keep deferring to the catfishing... yep, one argument starts failing, drag down anything you can find to push your agenda.

I hate to break it to you, but everybody lies. Sometimes calculated misdirection is a strategy. Sometimes it's important to do so, sometimes it's just to keep appearances, sometimes it's coach speak.

You don't like Diaco. Fine. I think most of the board knows that. Some agree with you, some don't and some are not sure.

 

[whaler11]

Since Carl's next move is to deflect inconvienient conversation with nonsensical claptrap and bible quotes - here is a video for Bob and Carl.

Remember it's not a lie if you believe it:


Hang in their Carl, one of these days you'll connect some dots. I won't bother with a cat poster I'm sure you've got plenty.

 

[J187Money]

I like Diaco. But I can't defend in any way how he used Boyle or how he talked about him all year. It was really strange. I'm sure he realizes he didn't handle it right either.

 

[whaler11]

Keep deferring to the catfishing... yep, one argument starts failing, drag down anything you can find to push your agenda.

I hate to break it to you, but everybody lies. Sometimes calculated misdirection is a strategy. Sometimes it's important to do so, sometimes it's just to keep appearances, sometimes it's coach speak.

You don't like Diaco. Fine. I think most of the board knows that. Some agree with you, some don't and some are not sure.

LOL - I'm was being told he couldn't possibly lie - after he was a party to a three week lie in front of the entire country.

Now I'm being told of course he lies everybody lies. Which is what I said 20 posts ago before others tried to pretend he told the truth about Boyle.

Again not sure how a Diaco supporter can't see that claiming he told the truth makes him look like a terrible football coach but logic is clearly out the window with respect to some around here.

 

[RedSoloCup]

LOL - I'm was being told he couldn't possibly lie - after he was a party to a three week lie in front of the entire country.

Now I'm being told of course he lies everybody lies. Which is what I said 20 posts ago before others tried to pretend he told the truth about Boyle.

Again not sure how a Diaco supporter can't see that claiming he told the truth makes him look like a terrible football coach but logic is clearly out the window with respect to some around here.

And you call him a terrible football coach. Because you dislike him, you focus on lying, perceived or actual.

I haven't judged him on his coaching ability yet. I see a motivator who had a poor first season with a rebuilding team, as many coaches do. Some of those coaches went on to be successful football coaches, some developers of men, and some both. Some never succeeded. I support Diaco because I support my school and team and the guys who are trying on the field there.

I'll judge his head coaching this year by how he handles and whether he improves from last year. He made several head scratching decisions in the course of the year. I'll judge his head coaching career after he's done it for more than a year. Doesn't mean I don't support him or will give up hope on my team, but I am not going to p1ss into the wind because of a slow head coaching career start.

 

[whaler11]

And you call him a terrible football coach. Because you dislike him, you focus on lying, perceived or actual.

I haven't judged him on his coaching ability yet. I see a motivator who had a poor first season with a rebuilding team, as many coaches do. Some of those coaches went on to be successful football coaches, some developers of men, and some both. Some never succeeded. I support Diaco because I support my school and team and the guys who are trying on the field there.

I'll judge his head coaching this year by how he handles and whether he improves from last year. He made several head scratching decisions in the course of the year. I'll judge his head coaching career after he's done it for more than a year. Doesn't mean I don't support him or will give up hope on my team, but I am not going to p1ss into the wind because of a slow head coaching career start.

I actually said it makes him look like a terrible football coach if he was telling the truth - which obviously I don't believe.

I don't have an opinion if he's a good head coach or not yet. I am of the opinion he didn't do a good job in 2014 - but if he learns from it all will be forgotten.

I do believe he is completely full of at times and I think the way he plays games with the media is a mistake.

I actually don't have any real problem with Diaco- it's nonsensical posts that I take issue with. I agree with him that he took over a complete mess and don't have unrealistic expectations on what constitutes a good 2015.

 

[Confident Carl]

I actually said it makes him look like a terrible football coach if he was telling the truth - which obviously I don't believe.

I don't have an opinion if he's a good head coach or not yet. I am of the opinion he didn't do a good job in 2014 - but if he learns from it all will be forgotten.

I do believe he is completely full of at times and I think the way he plays games with the media is a mistake.

I actually don't have any real problem with Diaco- it's nonsensical posts that I take issue with. I agree with him that he took over a complete mess and don't have unrealistic expectations on what constitutes a good 2015.

Your post's are starting to get tired. Here is what I think of your latest post.

 

[whaler11]

Post starting to get tired. Here is what I think of your latest post.

You'd mistakingly think that because you can't comprehend that one can be critical of decisions and actions while still understanding someone has potential.

You'd also potentially comprehend that because someone disagrees with your breathless fawning doesn't mean one believes the subject has no good qualities.

But you think it's libelous to point out what has been disclosed as fact because it doesn't fit your hagiography of the coach.

 

[Confident Carl]

You'd mistakingly think that because you can't comprehend that one can be critical of decisions and actions while still understanding someone has potential.

You'd also potentially comprehend that because someone disagrees with your breathless fawning doesn't mean one believes the subject has no good qualities.

Try this, it may help:

 

[Bonehead]

LOL, yup, which is why I was asking Whaler if that was a coaching lie. I saw it reported that there was surgery... unless Whaler was right, and we were lied to about the surgery as well...

Ah, love this place...

Not saying he didn't have surgery but I tried to be a google monkey and couldn't find it...and even more reason for him not to play.

 

[whaler11]

Try this, it may help:

Zing! When you can't make it about the debate - make it about the person!

 

[Waquoit]

Zing! When you can't make it about the debate - make it about the person!

Right, when the other side gets personal you know you won.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

I think we can all agree that Diaco handled the whole QB situation about as poorly as possible. Whatever you want to believe, fine. But the lesser of 2 evils is that Diaco was lying. Because if he was telling the truth about Boyle being injured, he'd be incompetent at best and negligent at worst.

I hope to God he was lying. (which isn't a big deal to me)

 

[Husky25]

Do I need to be careful when Notre Dame published a statement saying Te'o told Diaco on December 26th?

The other two are facts easily found via google.

If one were so inclined they could watch video of Diaco at an hour long press conference with Te'o after Diaco was notified and Te'o fields questions on the topic.

So I'm going to hold off on retaining a lawyer, but that was some solid advice from a guy with his finger on the pulse.

With all due respect Whaler (and you know I do), if I were DC of the #2 college team in the country, and I found out that my start middle linebacker was embarrassed beyond the limits of the typical human condition, and I found out less than 14 days before the biggest game of my (or anyone else's) career up to that point, you better believe I'm keep that close to my vest until at least after the game. I don't call that lying, I call that minimizing distraction. Imagine the media circus if the catfish came out of the bag before the game?

 

[Confident Carl]

Right, when the other side gets personal you know you won.

Darn it! I should have quit when I was ahead! I'll know better next time. Thanks! whew!

"If you'd like a good laugh... if you follow CCarl's link he excuses Boyle's play because of a lower leg injury.

That's right folks: Tim Boyle didn't play well because he was hampered by a lower leg injury".

 

[J187Money]

Now that I'm actually agreeing with Freescooter on something we can conclude that this thread has jumped the shark.

 

[Waquoit]

Darn it! I should have quit when I was ahead! I'll know better next time. Thanks! whew!

"If you'd like a good laugh... if you follow CCarl's link he excuses Boyle's play because of a lower leg injury.

That's right folks: Tim Boyle didn't play well because he was hampered by a lower leg injury".

You're welcome, I'm here to help. In your example, whaler is clearly criticizing your point, not you. See the difference?

 

[UC990411]

Isn't it, "leave it all on the field". ???

 

[RedSoloCup]

Isn't it, "leave it all on the field". ???

do we have to start the whole thread over again?

 

[whaler11]

With all due respect Whaler (and you know I do), if I were DC of the #2 college team in the country, and I found out that my start middle linebacker was embarrassed beyond the limits of the typical human condition, and I found out less than 14 days before the biggest game of my (or anyone else's) career up to that point, you better believe I'm keep that close to my vest until at least after the game. I don't call that lying, I call that minimizing distraction. Imagine the media circus if the catfish came out of the bag before the game?

I would do the exact same thing for the exact same reasons.

Years later I wouldn't expect anyone to say: that guy would never lie

 

[J187Money]

I would do the exact same thing for the exact same reasons. Years later I wouldn't expect anyone to say: that guy would never lie

Funny. I have no trouble understanding the point you are trying to make. I don't think people really read threads thoroughly.

 

[Confident Carl]

Isn't it, "leave it all on the field". ???

It's too bad that a thread inspired by a positive and exciting message about UCONN's upcoming 2015 season would gravitate to whether or not the head football coach is a liar. This is a micro example of how a losing mentality can effect the moral of a team. Once even a small amount of garbage infiltrates the mind of the team everything goes negative and control is lost. Even the spirit of the Great Jimmy V couldn't turn the negativity around. That's precisely what Bob Diaco talked about when he first got here. This presser on 11/18/14 was classic Bob Diaco saying like it is.



It was in between the devastating loss to Army and just prior to the Cincinnati game. The season ended very badly culminating with the SMU blowout before an Empty Rentschler stadium. I fully understand how downtrodden the fan base is. Ticket sales are not going so good. So I will end it just like I started it. Hopeful for a new beginning in September. Those who choose to beat the Bob Diaco is a liar drum, knock yourself out.

 

[whaler11]

It's too bad that a thread inspired by a positive and exciting message about UCONN's upcoming 2015 season would gravitate to whether or not the head football coach is a liar. This is a micro example of how a losing mentality can effect the moral of a team. Once even a small amount of garbage infiltrates the mind of the team everything goes negative and control is lost. Even the spirit of the Great Jimmy V couldn't turn the negativity around. That's precisely what Bob Diaco talked about when he first got here. This presser on 11/18/14 was classic Bob Diaco saying like it is.



It was in between the devastating loss to Army and just prior to the Cincinnati game. The season ended very badly culminating with the SMU blowout before an Empty Rentschler stadium. I fully understand how downtrodden the fan base is. Ticket sales are not going so good. So I will end it just like I started it. Hopeful for a new beginning in September. Those who choose to beat the Bob Diaco is a liar drum, knock yourself out.

I noticed you haven't linked to Diaco's hour long presser with Manti where he fielded questions about his dead girlfriend after Diaco was informed it wasn't true.

Why not?

 

[whaler11]

Also when you get a chance link to the thread with all the scholarship offers. Let's see how those players are rated.

Then let's see how many commits Diaco has and how many peer schools have.

 

[whaler11]

Oh yeah and the team loses because of message board posters. Even Jim Valvano couldn't fix it!!!!!

Carl I liked when you tried to post they had a commit and then you deleted when you figured out he went to Monmouth and they have none!