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Message: [QUOTE="NielsisGood, post: 2424949, member: 7503"] Rudy's prime isn't that different than anything George or Butler have done so far, both in volume or efficiency. Being an all star reserve a couple times or being a 6-8th seed and getting first rounded in the East doesn't really drastically change the calculus. Sure Rudy isn't as good defensively as Butler or George, which is the main reason I said that Rudy "isn't far off", as opposed to 'as good as'. Neither Minny or OKC would be much different if you put prime Rudy in those guys spot. At the end of the day, Butler/George are mid/low tier #2 guys on a title team, and prime Rudy is a solid #3. All of them have proven that they can't be the lead guy on a title team. Anyways let me end with this, since I'm sure you'll respond, let's try to get back on topic when you do. I've had enough of your ADHD sidebar on the Rudy vs Butler/PG comparisons. [/QUOTE]