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Message: [QUOTE="NielsisGood, post: 2422983, member: 7503"] And again there's really no "agree to disagree", you simply set your expectations way too high. In fact, I shouldn't even have to defend Rudy having a good career to someone who had been so unrealistic to begin with. Rudy's prime years aren't even that different from Butler or George anyways, and it's not like either of those guys have won anything big either. If those 2 guys are your baseline comparison to Rudy then you have no right to be disappointed, prime Rudy was only slightly worse than either. [/QUOTE]