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Message: [QUOTE="EBonz30, post: 2422635, member: 6370"] Please read my posts above, not talking about titles. A lot of the way I look at players and judge them, especially when we are talking about good or great players is how much do they effect the game in a positive way. Rudy from my point of view hasn’t had a lot of years where he has made a team better or effect the games in a positive way. If we ask all coaches he has played for in the NBA I believe they would repeat my conclusion. Stats are one of the things I discuss when I am in a conversation about comparing players or analyzing a player, but not the only thing, not even the top 2 or 3 items I use. If we were to talk about Baseball, stats have much more of importance when it comes to analyzing & judging players I believe. [/QUOTE]