KLS=WOW

[Ozzie Nelson]

Spent more of my kids inheritance today to scalp tix for front row, center court-and let me tell you, from that perspective, Lou's speed was unbelievable!! To be fair, the entire starting lineup's speed is something to behold from close up-it blew me away. I also have a new appreciation on the level of defensive intensity. Just to be able to watch and listen to Kia on defense was worth the inflated cost of admission These women are flat out amazing!!

You must be part of the SKI CLUB...spend kids inheritance!!!!

 

[Ozzie Nelson]

KLS is a better shooter than Breanna because she's a better 3-point shooter. Better overall? Only time will tell. That would be a tall order.

BS dominated games at the defensive end.

 

[MilfordHusky]

Bags, don't hold me to this but, I think I remember reading somewhere that Geno only agreed to accept Stevens if she agreed to play for TWO seasons.
I believe I saw it here (BY) right after the announcement that she was transferring. At that time, we didn't have any other BIGS in the pipeline like we do now (Charli Collier). She had not committed to UConn yet. Does anyone have any information on this?

I sure hope that Z stays for 2 seasons (not counting the current one).

 

[hoophuskee]

When has this happened? I haven't seen Lou shutdown and with the variety of ways she can score I do not see it happening. Especially with the confidence she is playing with now.

Yesterday's game.

a box-and-one's design is to deny the ball and to have someone in your grill as soon as you cat the ball. While she still could devastate the Tulanes -- she isn't quick enough to spring free vs the elite yet imo. Take a look at the ND game. She became unstoppable imo when they moved her to the elbow at the ft line. ANd she was guarded by a frosh.

1-- It is doubtful she is allowed to catch the ball at the elbow in a box-and-one.
2-- If she does, the thing about a box-and-one is if you beat one man off the dribble you have to immediately face a 2nd if not be doubled right away - though she is a very, very good passer.
3-- It doesn't matter to a certain degree how well a player is playing when a box-and-one is thrown at them. A box-and-one is about "numbers." The one player defending - doesn't help. All the defender does is face-guard the offensive player.
4-- Lou isn't especially quick nor strong in which she could displace her defender in a box-and-one. The thing is- yesterday a player that Antonelli said was 5'8 blocked her jump shot. The elite teams have several athletes that are capable especially if the defense put up is designed to stop Lou.


Anyhow -- its a testament to the greatness of Lou that an opposing team would even try to do this considering we have several other great players on our team. Lou is great. Really really great so far.

 

[eebmg]

Yesterday's game.

a box-and-one's design is to deny the ball and to have someone in your grill as soon as you cat the ball. While she still could devastate the Tulanes -- she isn't quick enough to spring free vs the elite yet imo. Take a look at the ND game. She became unstoppable imo when they moved her to the elbow at the ft line. ANd she was guarded by a frosh.

1-- It is doubtful she is allowed to catch the ball at the elbow in a box-and-one.
2-- If she does, the thing about a box-and-one is if you beat one man off the dribble you have to immediately face a 2nd if not be doubled right away - though she is a very, very good passer.
3-- It doesn't matter to a certain degree how well a player is playing when a box-and-one is thrown at them. A box-and-one is about "numbers." The one player defending - doesn't help. All the defender does is face-guard the offensive player.
4-- Lou isn't especially quick nor strong in which she could displace her defender in a box-and-one. The thing is- yesterday a player that Antonelli said was 5'8 blocked her jump shot. The elite teams have several athletes that are capable especially if the defense put up is designed to stop Lou.


Anyhow -- its a testament to the greatness of Lou that an opposing team would even try to do this considering we have several other great players on our team. Lou is great. Really really great so far.

Please fedex this post to Geno and Lou.

 

[CajunHusky]

So what do we think 10 looks like?

let's remind all that Geno said 10 = all she can be! the sliding scale he is using is his measure of her potential and he thinks there so much more potential game in Lou! this is a good thing

 

[Los24]

Yesterday's game.

a box-and-one's design is to deny the ball and to have someone in your grill as soon as you cat the ball. While she still could devastate the Tulanes -- she isn't quick enough to spring free vs the elite yet imo. Take a look at the ND game. She became unstoppable imo when they moved her to the elbow at the ft line. ANd she was guarded by a frosh.

1-- It is doubtful she is allowed to catch the ball at the elbow in a box-and-one.
2-- If she does, the thing about a box-and-one is if you beat one man off the dribble you have to immediately face a 2nd if not be doubled right away - though she is a very, very good passer.
3-- It doesn't matter to a certain degree how well a player is playing when a box-and-one is thrown at them. A box-and-one is about "numbers." The one player defending - doesn't help. All the defender does is face-guard the offensive player.
4-- Lou isn't especially quick nor strong in which she could displace her defender in a box-and-one. The thing is- yesterday a player that Antonelli said was 5'8 blocked her jump shot. The elite teams have several athletes that are capable especially if the defense put up is designed to stop Lou.


Anyhow -- its a testament to the greatness of Lou that an opposing team would even try to do this considering we have several other great players on our team. Lou is great. Really really great so far.

Got it. I recognized it (box+1) in the game yesterday but my point was she has not been stopped. One block by a 5'8" person on Lou is a rarity. Pheese who is great against larger opponents has had her shot blocked more than Lou. I have only seen her get blocked a few times this year.

I somewhat disagree on her ability to break free from "athletic defenders." Maryland is pretty athletic and she was able to rise and get her shot off. In fact, according to Muffet she put that frosh on her because she is the only one that had a chance to cover her (outside Turner who was needed down low.) Lou is pretty athletic, just not compared to Gabby (but most aren't.) I have seen her break free from any defender one on one. Regardless, and to your point, I doubt other teams will try to do this anyhow because of the rest of the talent on the floor. I think yesterday was about a coach saying we need to try something different against UConn.

 

[hoophuskee]

Please fedex this post to Geno and Lou.

No skin off my back if you roll your eyes. Just wondering- what is your interpretation of what a box-and-one is supposed to do?
Per the link below Maya shot 8-19 from the floor on a triangle-and-two. To start the game the link below clealry states Stanford went into the trianagle-and-two. That gimmick defense did a pretty good job on Maya, didn't it?
Other than 8-19 from the floor, Maya shot 1 free throw for the entire game and had 3 assists and 4 turnovers.
So if Maya Moore can be somewhat contained in a gimmick defense, and if we take off our blue-and-white shaded glasses, why can't we open up to the possibility that Lou might have a similar fate if a gimmick is thrown at her ?



Believe what you will -- I can recall one when Maya was guarded by a gimmick that Geno said to paraphrase that "he wasn't going to keep pounding a nail already embedded into the wall nail" In other words he wasn't going to force the ball to Maya. Only a gimmick defense can make him say something like this right?

 

[hoophuskee]

Got it. I recognized it (box+1) in the game yesterday but my point was she has not been stopped. One block by a 5'8" person on Lou is a rarity. Pheese who is great against larger opponents has had her shot blocked more than Lou. I have only seen her get blocked a few times this year.

I somewhat disagree on her ability to break free from "athletic defenders." Maryland is pretty athletic and she was able to rise and get her shot off. In fact, according to Muffet she put that frosh on her because she is the only one that had a chance to cover her (outside Turner who was needed down low.) Lou is pretty athletic, just not compared to Gabby (but most aren't.) I have seen her break free from any defender one on one. Regardless, and to your point, I doubt other teams will try to do this anyhow because of the rest of the talent on the floor. I think yesterday was about a coach saying we need to try something different against UConn.

When I spoke of the box-and-one it wasn't anything to do with a slam on Lou but as my last sentence posted to you -- it was like a reverence to greatness that a team would do it even though this UCONN team has obscene balance. It's a testament to how great Lou has been playing.

On these boards we've all experienced if you think "Dt is greatest " Or Maya or Stewie. You get into these battles in which you feel like you have to knock down the other great player to prove your point. After a few posts - I start wondering what am I dong?

In this case I love Lou's game. I love Lou's game. I love Lou's game. I love Lou's game. She just looks so much "MOORE" (a presence) than the opposition. With all that said, I just happen to think that if an opposing team went extreme and tried a gimmick on a soph stewie vs a soph Lou (assuming they had equally talented teammates and opposition), I think because of STeiw's superior quickness, athleticism, length, and wingspan - that she can get off good shots better than Lou. Thus I'm grading Stewie a "99.25" (I'm making up the number just to identify both are GREAT and offensively they are extremely close.) while grading Lou a 98.88.

I made up the numbers just to make a point - that I think Lou is sensational. Now that she has found her groove, I am so interested to see what type of player or defense can stop her. Similarily as you say Lou is unstoppable, I wondering what would it take to stop Lou? OFC she can have bad games, but I mean is there a Dennis Rodman/Dave DeBusscherre/Sam Jones out there? I feel sick mentioning Rodman. Because I don't know of one yet, I threw out an extreme example of a box-and-one.

 

[mntncougar]

In my comment about Lou vs Stewie there was, first of all, no disparagement of Stewie intended. I think we all know we may never see better or even the like. There are certain ways in which KLS can never equal B S simply because of the difference in height and Stewie's vaunted "wing span".
But I believe that Katie is already a better 3 pt shooter than Stewie at her best, and her moves in and around the basket are already extraordinary. This year she is showing much-improved mid-range and it is still getting better.
I won't waste time on defense. We all know that as a junior and senior Stewart was better than KLS is now, but she seems to be improving with every game. 8 steals!
But really, my main point is that Katie Lou has only played just more than 1.5 seasons, the first as a second-tier player where she was never asked to do much more than fire up 3's. And we can contrast that to the Stewart we saw at the end of 4 seasons, where she was incomparable and destined to become a legend. I think she already is.
Based on what we've seen so far, I believe that Lou has the potential to be every bit as valuable as Stewie was, though certainly in her own and sometimes different ways.

 

[Los24]

When I spoke of the box-and-one it wasn't anything to do with a slam on Lou but as my last sentence posted to you -- it was like a reverence to greatness that a team would do it even though this UCONN team has obscene balance. It's a testament to how great Lou has been playing.

On these boards we've all experienced if you think "Dt is greatest " Or Maya or Stewie. You get into these battles in which you feel like you have to knock down the other great player to prove your point. After a few posts - I start wondering what am I dong?

In this case I love Lou's game. I love Lou's game. I love Lou's game. I love Lou's game. She just looks so much "MOORE" (a presence) than the opposition. With all that said, I just happen to think that if an opposing team went extreme and tried a gimmick on a soph stewie vs a soph Lou (assuming they had equally talented teammates and opposition), I think because of STeiw's superior quickness, athleticism, length, and wingspan - that she can get off good shots better than Lou. Thus I'm grading Stewie a "99.25" (I'm making up the number just to identify both are GREAT and offensively they are extremely close.) while grading Lou a 98.88.

I made up the numbers just to make a point - that I think Lou is sensational. Now that she has found her groove, I am so interested to see what type of player or defense can stop her. Similarily as you say Lou is unstoppable, I wondering what would it take to stop Lou? OFC she can have bad games, but I mean is there a Dennis Rodman/Dave DeBusscherre/Sam Jones out there? I feel sick mentioning Rodman. Because I don't know of one yet, I threw out an extreme example of a box-and-one.

Surething. I was just commenting as well. We are on the same page.

 

[CMC'72]

She's getting Geno-tough, but her heart is pure Kalifornia Kewl.