Klay Thompson

[JSM1970]

He's in the top 10, a lock down defender and great scorer/shooter. Which was why it would have been great when those C's trade rumors

Bradley, Rozier, Jaylen Brown and the Nets 2017 pick

Barkley says Klay is NBA's second best player! behind Lebron.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

I don't see any argument to be made for Klay being above Harden, AD and especially CP3. He is an amazing fit with the Dubs but if you start a team from scratch, I can't even select Klay over the 2nd tier of stars like PG, Blake, Boogie, etc.

He is more efficient than Harden and more dynamic than CP3 (but if building a team from scratch I would also take the best pure PG over Klay). You lost me with Boogie. Having composure is part of being great. Boogie has the composure of a suicidal ally cat. Plus, he has played in a meaningful game in his entire career. Let me see him be great when it counts before mixing his name with the others on my list.

 

[Walker11]

He is more efficient than Harden and more dynamic than CP3 (but if building a team from scratch I would also take the best pure PG over Klay). You lost me with Boogie. Having composure is part of being great. Boogie has the composure of a suicidal ally cat. Plus, he has played in a meaningful game in his entire career. Let me see him be great when it counts before mixing his name with the others on my list.

I would never want Boogie on my team but his talent is undeniable. He is a hard player to rank. I would love to see him one day in a good locker room with a coach who demands his respect and can hold him accountable.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

I would never want Boogie on my team but his talent is undeniable. He is a hard player to rank. I would love to see him one day in a good locker room with a coach who demands his respect and can hold him accountable.

His talent is undeniable. But talent without focus and purpose is just a waste.

 

[James]

He is more efficient than Harden and more dynamic than CP3 (but if building a team from scratch I would also take the best pure PG over Klay). You lost me with Boogie. Having composure is part of being great. Boogie has the composure of a suicidal ally cat. Plus, he has played in a meaningful game in his entire career. Let me see him be great when it counts before mixing his name with the others on my list.

he isn't more efficient than the Beard, check their TS%s. Harden is just in another league as far as playmaking and consistent star level play. his numbers are just ridiculous, and the rockets are must see tv.

CP3 is so overrated, guy has done nothing in his career in the playoffs but is deemed untouchable. he is turning 32 , i would sell high on him if i was doc. not gonna happen though.

 

[BigErnMcCracken]

I would never want Boogie on my team but his talent is undeniable. He is a hard player to rank. I would love to see him one day in a good locker room with a coach who demands his respect and can hold him accountable.

Yeah this, basically. I'd love to see what he could do on a decent team with a good coach. I don't think he has any sort of personality defect - I just think he's been on a bunch of terrible teams.

 

[James]

Yeah this, basically. I'd love to see what he could do on a decent team with a good coach. I don't think he has any sort of personality defect - I just think he's been on a bunch of terrible teams.

I think cousins moodiness is unsettling, the guy in my avatar has probably been fed up with it for a while. but I was watching the knicks play the other day and saw this,



had a bunch of flashbacks of old horrible teammates of my past. guy cusses people out every game, i remember him stopping IT from saying hello to cp3 after a game ha.

 

[champs99and04]

Yeah this, basically. I'd love to see what he could do on a decent team with a good coach. I don't think he has any sort of personality defect - I just think he's been on a bunch of terrible teams.

"Defect" is strong but I think there's more to it than him simply being on bad teams, no? I honestly have no idea what would happen with him in a different situation. There is a lot to suggest that he's a b**** to coach and even harder to play with. Then again, he wouldn't be the first star to meet those qualifications.

By all accounts he is a good guy and pretty much has been since his Kentucky days. I wonder if he's on that Brandon Marshall spectrum of guys who harbor an undiagnosed personality disorder.

 

[NielsisGood]

The LeBron from games 5-7 in the finals, yeah, but he's logged too many miles to be that guy every night like Draymond is. I think Kawhi is the best 1 on 1 defender in the game but he can't guard five positions like Draymond can.

It's cute how people still mention LeBron in these discussions like it's 2011. That being said I'd still take Kawhi over Draymond defensively.

I'd definitely rather have Draymond between he and Klay. Draymond does just about everything above average-excellent, whereas Klay has 1 phenomenal skill, one very good skill, and is below average at everything else. I don't think Draymond would be as good on most other teams, but I don't think Klay could be the #1 option on a team either, he lacks the ball handling and ability to penetrate/get to the line that a real legit #1 needs.

 

[NielsisGood]

I don't see any argument to be made for Klay being above Harden, AD and especially CP3. He is an amazing fit with the Dubs but if you start a team from scratch, I can't even select Klay over the 2nd tier of stars like PG, Blake, Boogie, etc.

Both of you are forgetting Kawhi too. I think Klay is realistically top 15-20.

 

[NielsisGood]

Yeah this, basically. I'd love to see what he could do on a decent team with a good coach. I don't think he has any sort of personality defect - I just think he's been on a bunch of terrible teams.

Pretty much this. There's not much difference between Boogie and Draymond attitude wise, other than 1 being on a dynastic team and the other being on a bunch of terrible teams.

 

[James]

It's cute how people still mention LeBron in these discussions like it's 2011. That being said I'd still take Kawhi over Draymond defensively.

I'd definitely rather have Draymond between he and Klay. Draymond does just about everything above average-excellent, whereas Klay has 1 phenomenal skill, one very good skill, and is below average at everything else. I don't think Draymond would be as good on most other teams, but I don't think Klay could be the #1 option on a team either, he lacks the ball handling and ability to penetrate/get to the line that a real legit #1 needs.

So kawhi has been better than green this year on defense, is that what you're contending? Because that's just false. Not a surprising take from you, your track record here posting about the league revolves on spewing lebron hate or talking about games you didn't even watch.

 

[Walker11]

Both of you are forgetting Kawhi too. I think Klay is realistically top 15-20.

Kawhi is top 4 for me. We left out that top tier because it's no comparison.

 

[Walker11]

Is this Pckftniels or whatever? Would make sense.

 

[Stainmaster]

Is this Pckftniels or whatever? Would make sense.

Let's ask him about taxation and the lottery just to make sure.

 

[superjohn]

I'm shocked so many people have Draymond at or above Klay. Draymond is a very good player who somehow vaulted into top 5 or 10 material in some peoples minds. it's bizarre to me, kind of like when some thought Noah was borderline top 5 in the league a few years ago.

 

[James]

I'm shocked so many people have Draymond at or above Klay. Draymond is a very good player who somehow vaulted into top 5 or 10 material in some peoples minds. it's bizarre to me, kind of like when some thought Noah was borderline top 5 in the league a few years ago.

draymond and klay are not top 15 players in this league IMO. Klay specifically gets overrated for his scoring spectacles, the idea he is anywhere as good as harden is preposterous to me. I honestly think jimmy butler is much better than klay, i also spend a lot of time thinking what if they made that trade straight up?

 

[champs99and04]

draymond and klay are not top 15 players in this league IMO. Klay specifically gets overrated for his scoring spectacles, the idea he is anywhere as good as harden is preposterous to me. I honestly think jimmy butler is much better than klay, i also spend a lot of time thinking what if they made that trade straight up?

Klay's defense is what gets overrated, IMO, not his scoring. He wouldn't be Harden as a #1 option but he'd be close. Dude is capable of playing pick and roll ball but it obviously makes more sense to use him differently in Golden State.

I think there are two different Draymond's...the center, and the forward. The center is a top 15 player, but he can't play center full-time.

 

[NielsisGood]

So kawhi has been better than green this year on defense, is that what you're contending? Because that's just false. Not a surprising take from you, your track record here posting about the league revolves on spewing lebron hate or talking about games you didn't even watch.

You might be the only guy on the planet that would not only think Draymond is a better defender than Kawhi, but then actually try to insult somebody for saying Kawhi is better. Kawhi also shut down Jimmy Butler tonight, so I'm not even sure what the hell you're trying to say about his defense this season.

 

[NielsisGood]

I'm shocked so many people have Draymond at or above Klay. Draymond is a very good player who somehow vaulted into top 5 or 10 material in some peoples minds. it's bizarre to me, kind of like when some thought Noah was borderline top 5 in the league a few years ago.

It's equally as astounding to me that people in this thread consider Klay a top 5 player when he's below average in every facet but 2.

 

[NielsisGood]

Kawhi is top 4 for me. We left out that top tier because it's no comparison.

No you didn't, you just screwed up and omitted him.

 

[Walker11]

No you didn't, you just screwed up and omitted him.

Try again. KL stands for "Kawhi Leonard," FYI.

This isn't as far-fetched as it sounds. His Offensive ability combined with his Defensive skills..I put him in the top six (at least). Durant, KL, Curry, Westbrook, Klay...with LeBron leading the pack.

I don't see any argument to be made for Klay being above Harden, AD and especially CP3. He is an amazing fit with the Dubs but if you start a team from scratch, I can't even select Klay over the 2nd tier of stars like PG, Blake, Boogie, etc.

 

[MilliniumPrince]

It's equally as astounding to me that people in this thread consider Klay a top 5 player when he's below average in every facet but 2.

If you are only going to be good at two things in basketball......scoring and defense are pretty good choices.

He also has a knack for elevating his play in big games.

 

[NielsisGood]

Try again. KL stands for "Kawhi Leonard," FYI.

Didn't you say the first time that you specifically didn't mention Kawhi because he's so clearly above Klay? Now you did mention him apparently? Makes it hard to take you seriously.

 

[Walker11]

Didn't you say the first time that you specifically didn't mention Kawhi because he's so clearly above Klay? Now you did mention him apparently? Makes it hard to take you seriously.

You are so GD stupid. Stop overserving yourself and then coming to the 'Yard for some late night trolling.

 

[Scoe]

I would never want Boogie on my team but his talent is undeniable. He is a hard player to rank. I would love to see him one day in a good locker room with a coach who demands his respect and can hold him accountable.

WTF were the Kings thinking having Matt Barnes being a mentor to Cousins.