Kivon Taylor To Transfer

[whaler11]

One other thought. I'd stop wasting time worrying about future depth charts at quarterback. Since Orlovsky graduated there hasn't been a single depth chart for more than 12 months out that has meant a damn thing.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

07 was a 50% loss too.. Edsall seemed to have some high attrition rates but I don't know what's the average at this level. Agree with Free and you it was a combination of things. Its a fine mess.

Penn State, Maryland, Boston College - maybe I'm high, but I don't consider us to be that far below those programs when it comes to transfers. Transferring for playing time - I agree. I've long written that a good benchmark for UCONN generally, will be when players that are transferring out - tend to go to other 1-A programs for playing time, rather than 1-AA. We had 2 go to Boston College this year, and it will be interesting to see where McCombs plays out his eligibility and where Taylor ends up. .

and USC, Notre Dame, Clemson.

 

[whaler11]

Can someone check me on this?

Post Orlovsky quarterbacks who committed to UConn in high school who exhausted their eligibility at UConn still playing quarterback:

Matt Bonislawski.

That is the list.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Hate Edsall if you like. I don't get it and think it's ridiculous... but if you think he stopped coaching and recruiting... that's insane even by BY standards.

You never know the when, logic will tell you that's why you need to maintain and/or improve on those very same things if indeed your looking to better yourself, you don't coast.

 

[uconnfan68]

Yup. Looking like Cochran vs Boyle next season. I hope they redshirt Davis so he can learn the playbook and work on his footwork. Davis has some serious skills from what I saw on his hudl.

As long as they have Whitmer, Davis will RS.

 

[whaler11]

You never know the when, logic will tell you that's why you need to maintain and/or improve on those very same things if indeed your looking to better yourself, you don't coast.

Even the concept that he took the Fiesta Bowl off because he knew he had the Maryland job is insane.

I happened to come across that game the other day. There is a series where they try to run the ball up the middle, flip one to Robbie and then throw on third down....

Oklahoma's personnel was so much better I could have coached that Sooners team to a win that night.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

Can someone check me on this?

Post Orlovsky quarterbacks who committed to UConn in high school who exhausted their eligibility at UConn still playing quarterback:

Matt Bonislawski.

That is the list.

Does Johnny Mac count?

 

[whaler11]

Does Johnny Mac count?

I actually met Johnny at the Spring Game the season before he enrolled and thought what he was telling us was bs. But I think you are right technically he should count.

He was literally sitting in the bleachers by himself telling us he was a quarterback on the team in the fall. It seemed like what we used to tell girls on Spring Break.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Can someone check me on this?

Post Orlovsky quarterbacks who committed to UConn in high school who exhausted their eligibility at UConn still playing quarterback:

Matt Bonislawski.

That is the list.

Wow that is brutal.

 

[ktuck911]

As long as they have Whitmer, Davis will RS.

Isn't Whitmer in his final season this year????

 

[freescooter]

I never quite got why Edsall couldn't recruit quarterbacks, especially after Orlovsky. Not that you'd expect multiple guys that good,but jeez, he seemed to struggle to get anyone and to develop what he did get. Some of the guys we brought in weren't awful but didn't seem to develop. And there was some just bad luck, too. Frazer wasn't awful but never got better. The JUCO kid who ended up as a tight end in the NFL actually I think would have been pretty good but never quite recovered from his injury. He seemed to change his throwing motion after that and never really got it right going forward. With his ability to run the football he could have been pretty dangerous I think. The guys who left under Pasqualoni, who knows. That was a complete change in philosophy and they really didn't fit Deleone's approach. I'm guessing that the Fordham guy would have been pretty good in Edsall's system. Box didn't impress me but he was more an option type too.

 

[noeynox]

One other thought. I'd stop wasting time worrying about future depth charts at quarterback. Since Orlovsky graduated there hasn't been a single depth chart for more than 12 months out that has meant a damn thing.

Yep, john silver last night tweeted that not one qb recruited out of hs, post orlovsky has finished his eligibility at UConn. The only one was DJ who finished at wr and johnny Mac who was a walk on. That is a horrible track record.

 

[whaler11]

Yep, john silver last night tweeted that not one qb recruited out of hs, post orlovsky has finished his eligibility at UConn. The only one was DJ who finished at wr and johnny Mac who was a walk on. That is a horrible track record.

Is Silver stealing my stuff?

Since he tweeted 7 min after my post that's probably a yes.

 

[Jimmy Serrano]

Is Silver stealing my stuff?!

Well if he was he shouldn't have missed Bones.

 

[whaler11]

Well if he was he shouldn't have missed Bones.

Well they overlapped so depending on how you define 'after' it's true.

 

[noeynox]

Is Silver stealing my stuff?

Since he tweeted 7 min after my post that's probably a yes.

Yeah didn't see your second post, but wow is all I can say at our lack of success recruiting QBs.

 

[Pudge]

Lorenzen ... but that's splitting hairs. If you want 5 years from one kid ... we have not had that.

 

[whaler11]

Lorenzen ... but that's splitting hairs. If you want 5 years from one kid ... we have not had that.

JC transfer.

Who was the other QB that was more highly rated they were in on. It was Lorenzen, the other JC QB and Jerrell Miller they were recruiting at the same time if my memory hasn't totally failed.

I think Miller soured me on following recruiting, call me on signing day and then I'll believe someone can play when I see it.

 

[noeynox]

JC transfer.

Who was the other QB that was more highly rated they were in on. It was Lorenzen, the other JC QB and Jerrell Miller they were recruiting at the same time if my memory hasn't totally failed.

I think Miller soured me on following recruiting, call me on signing day and then I'll beleive someone can play when I see it.

I agree. Guys like Miller and Difton, four star recruits, who are by in large much lesser athletes than some of our two star athletes. I'm like whatever. I'm glad we are getting a slew of commits right now, not sweating their rankings at all.

 

[Carl Spackler]

You never know the when, logic will tell you that's why you need to maintain and/or improve on those very same things if indeed your looking to better yourself, you don't coast.

That's about it in a word. Coasting. Much easier to fall off and head down when you coast, than it is to get better. If you're not constantly pushing to improve, you fall down.

 

[SubbaBub]

Here's the issue. Few if any QB'S start 4 or even 3 years. You need to be both a top 10 recruit and entering an situation where the starter left without a clear successor.

So, if your UConn and not attracting high caliber QB's, you can get recruits to come here looking to play early, but the ones that can't unseat a weaker incumbent will be recruited over and likely transfer or ride the bench.

Taylor had a full year in the program and didn't advance in a year when just about everyone played. Lagow didn't have a lot of options once Boyle came in, stayed through fall practice and decided it wasn't going to work here. I'm sure if he came in a outpaced everyone he would have stayed.

If you have more than one quarterback, then you don't have any quarterbacks. We've had a shipping container full since Dan O left.

 

[Duncan Idaho]

JC transfer.

Who was the other QB that was more highly rated they were in on. It was Lorenzen, the other JC QB and Jerrell Miller they were recruiting at the same time if my memory hasn't totally failed.

I think Miller soured me on following recruiting, call me on signing day and then I'll believe someone can play when I see it.

Billy Bob Orsagh

 

[Carl Spackler]

Here's the issue. Few if any QB'S start 4 or even 3 years. You need to be both a top 10 recruit and entering an situation where the starter left without a clear successor.

So, if your UConn and not attracting high caliber QB's, you can get recruits to come here looking to play early, but the ones that can't unseat a weaker incumbent will be recruited over and likely transfer or ride the bench.

Taylor had a full year in the program and didn't advance in a year when just about everyone played. Lagow didn't have a lot of options once Boyle came in, stayed through fall practice and decided it wasn't going to work here. I'm sure if he came in a outpaced everyone he would have stayed.

If you have more than one quarterback, then you don't have any quarterbacks. We've had a shipping container full since Dan O left.

I completely disagree with that last comment. If you have more than one, you don't have any? We haven't had any decent depth at QB at all - but we have brought in a whole bunch of QB's since Orlovsky. Our most successful QB threw knuckle balls, and Tyler Lorenzen couldn't throw to save his life - but he had all the other things you want to have in a QB. Corny Benton was one of the best athletes that we've recruited at the QB position in the past 25 years. He played only one season, because DeGenarro was a year older, and not as good an athlete, but played his ass off and didn't let him take him over on the depth chart until he got. Benton got one full season as a starter and was drafted by the Steelers. That's just a UCONN example. Look at a guy like Tom Brady? A QB got drafted out of California a while back that never even played if I remember correctly. The IDEAL situation in my opinion is to have at least 2 minimum QB's that are capable of starting at any one time, and doing well, and have the pushing each other day in and day out. and have QB's lined up behind them. DeGennaro will tell you that having Benton as his backup is what made him perform as well as he did. You need QB's in every recruiting class. THe one thing Pasqualoni brought undeniably positive that we didn't have, really at any time since making the jump up - is decent QB depth on the roster - multiple guys that can actually throw the ball well. Boyle and Cochran are setting up to be a pair that can really push each other now and in the future - I hope that Boyle gets the red shirt this year.

 

[SubbaBub]

It's still TBD if CC or TB are any good. Better than what we've had isn't good enough.

And it's an old saying that means if you don't have a clear #1 QB, then chances are none of them are very good.

 

[Carl Spackler]

It's still TBD if CC or TB are any good. Better than what we've had isn't good enough.

And it's an old saying that means if you don't have a clear #1 QB, then chances are none of them are very good.

Wrong. Just wrong.

 

[Carl Spackler]

07 was a 50% loss too.. Edsall seemed to have some high attrition rates but I don't know what's the average at this level. Agree with Free and you it was a combination of things. Its a fine mess.



and USC, Notre Dame, Clemson.

Figuring out what attrition rates are over time, and what causes it - is something that every football program should be well aware of internally IMNSHO. It would be interesting to know what kind of attrition rates other schools are getting, especially those in conference, and regionally competitive for recruiting.

The past is the past, and now is now. I have my thoughts as to why, others will have their thoughts and opinion, but the fact is that right now, we are deficient in basic numbers of scholarship recruits based on the annual NLI recruiting cycles of approx. 15-20 players accumulated since the 2008-2009 cycle. Pasqualoni was turning that around, but another coaching change has put us right back behind the 8 ball. We're up to 7 for 2015, if Diaco is on the ball, this recruiting class will have about 30 players and should be our largest class since 2007.

 

[BNich]

As long as they have Whitmer, Davis will RS.

Davis won't hit campus until after Whitmer graduates.

 

[BHusky]

Figuring out what attrition rates are over time, and what causes it - is something that every football program should be well aware of internally IMNSHO. It would be interesting to know what kind of attrition rates other schools are getting, especially those in conference, and regionally competitive for recruiting.

The past is the past, and now is now. I have my thoughts as to why, others will have their thoughts and opinion, but the fact is that right now, we are deficient in basic numbers of scholarship recruits based on the annual NLI recruiting cycles of approx. 15-20 players accumulated since the 2008-2009 cycle. Pasqualoni was turning that around, but another coaching change has put us right back behind the 8 ball. We're up to 7 for 2015, if Diaco is on the ball, this recruiting class will have about 30 players and should be our largest class since 2007.

Unless rules have changed, each class is capped at 25 scholarship players per academic year. So you will not see a 30 player class unless there is a loophole and they can somehow bring in the additional 5 players in other ways/time.

 

[mrhandyman]

Unless rules have changed, each class is capped at 25 scholarship players per academic year. So you will not see a 30 player class unless there is a loophole and they can somehow bring in the additional 5 players in other ways/time.

Do grayshirts count against that total?

 

[ktuck911]

So any word on where Kivon's transferring to?