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Message: [QUOTE="8893, post: 2707694, member: 93"] And in any given year Michigan and many others are right there in the rankings, too. I am not just going by rankings; I am going by my own experience and observations. I know at least a dozen Duke grads from various vintages. They are all reasonably bright people, but nothing extraordinary, and if they didn't tell you--fat chance of that--you wouldn't be able to tell that they were educated at Duke as compared with dozens of other very good schools. Stanford is rarefied air and the people of whom I am aware who graduated from there are extraordinary and tend to be the type of people you see on TV or read about in the papers. [/QUOTE]