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Kim Mulkey, violations, & interpretations

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1. The Violation about speaking to BG during Elite Camp.
Yes that is indeed a violation. However, coaches get around that rule by having the players leave the campus and then returning. For instance, if a camp is dismissed at 3pm, a kid can leave campus and then return at 4pm, which would be an "unofficial visit". During unofficial visits, you may discuss items about academics, how you will fit with the team, etc.

2. Phone Calls
The thing with phone calls is that it's very subjective and each school & athletic director has their own set of definition of a "phone call". For instance, some ADs say that any calls that last less than 2 minutes aren't counted as a "phone call". In others, if you make a call, and the kid says "hello?", it automatically counts as a phone call. If you call a kid and the call drops, returning the dropped call is a violation. It's very common for coaches to lie and say "This doesn't count as a phone call." (when it clearly does and is often a violation). Often, coaches will play Phone Ring Tag with a recruit. They may call, let the phone ring one time, then hang up. Rinse Repeat.
Another thing that the NCAA can't monitor is that sometimes, coaches will buy prepaid cell phones (which can't be traced and don't have to be accounted for) or will get additional land-lines in their homes (which can't be monitored nor accounted for).
Therefore, 1,000 phone calls may seem like a lot and excessive. However, it's very believable that, given the parameters of the rules and loose interpretations, coaches may make that amount.

3. High Profile Athletes
Often, the NCAA will ask kids about their recruitment process. Kids and parents often talk openly about what happens. However, the kids and parents have no clue as to what NCAA violations are defined as such (hell, coaches don't even know every rule). When kids talk and rumors start floating, those who know what violations are being violated (and who may have sour grapes from being on the losing end of a recruit, games, or championships) will squeal.

4. Kim Mulkey
Did KM know what she was doing? Absolutely. Did she know what she was doing was against NCAA violations? Absolutely. Will she get a severe punishment? Probably not.
 
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1. The Violation about speaking to BG during Elite Camp.
Yes that is indeed a violation. However, coaches get around that rule by having the players leave the campus and then returning. For instance, if a camp is dismissed at 3pm, a kid can leave campus and then return at 4pm, which would be an "unofficial visit". During unofficial visits, you may discuss items about academics, how you will fit with the team, etc.

2. Phone Calls
The thing with phone calls is that it's very subjective and each school & athletic director has their own set of definition of a "phone call". For instance, some ADs say that any calls that last less than 2 minutes aren't counted as a "phone call". In others, if you make a call, and the kid says "hello?", it automatically counts as a phone call. If you call a kid and the call drops, returning the dropped call is a violation. It's very common for coaches to lie and say "This doesn't count as a phone call." (when it clearly does and is often a violation). Often, coaches will play Phone Ring Tag with a recruit. They may call, let the phone ring one time, then hang up. Rinse Repeat.
Another thing that the NCAA can't monitor is that sometimes, coaches will buy prepaid cell phones (which can't be traced and don't have to be accounted for) or will get additional land-lines in their homes (which can't be monitored nor accounted for).
Therefore, 1,000 phone calls may seem like a lot and excessive. However, it's very believable that, given the parameters of the rules and loose interpretations, coaches may make that amount.

3. High Profile Athletes
Often, the NCAA will ask kids about their recruitment process. Kids and parents often talk openly about what happens. However, the kids and parents have no clue as to what NCAA violations are defined as such (hell, coaches don't even know every rule). When kids talk and rumors start floating, those who know what violations are being violated (and who may have sour grapes from being on the losing end of a recruit, games, or championships) will squeal.

4. Kim Mulkey
Did KM know what she was doing? Absolutely. Did she know what she was doing was against NCAA violations? Absolutely. Will she get a severe punishment? Probably not.
This is what the NCAA does to justify their own existence. Do they really care about kids? Doubt it.
 

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Hence, the kids on the men's 2012-13 team being banned from the post season because some guys didn't graduate in 2009.

It's why with some pressure, the penalty on the men's team has some hope of reversal. Hope, and that's about all it is. But the damage is already happening.
 

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Kim Mulkey and Baylor have violated NCAA rules...Blatantly. But will she and Baylor be severly punished... No. If the NCAA wanted to punish them severly they would have not let the investigation go on this long under wraps. Also, why wait until after the NC game to announce the violations ? I doubt Kim and Baylor receive much more than a slap on the wrist and minor restrictions and sanctions.......But lets wait and see.
 
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Did KM know what she was doing? Absolutely. Did she know what she was doing was against NCAA violations? Absolutely.

I agree that she knew what she was doing, but the reward/risk was worth it, and @ 40-0 it paid off. I'd venture, if she could go back in time, that she'd do it again .
 

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Just to clarify, and this doesn't make the calls acceptable, but Griner verballed 8 months before any of the phone calls in the report were made. It was obvious to all that Griner was going nowhere but Baylor.

If I were the NCAA I would be more concerned about Mulkey's communication during AAU games.
 

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Just to clarify, and this doesn't make the calls acceptable, but Griner verballed 8 months before any of the phone calls in the report were made. It was obvious to all that Griner was going nowhere but Baylor.

If I were the NCAA I would be more concerned about Mulkey's communication during AAU games.
Which only makes the contacts at the AAU games all the more suspect.
 
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