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Message: [QUOTE="hank970, post: 5216148, member: 6349"] Not 50 years since I lived in Big12 country. As I clearly stated, I've lived in Big12 country [B]since 1977 -- 48 years this coming May[/B]. If that makes me a rube, then at least I'm a rube who can read and comprehend. Bike racer? I used to be involved in bike racing, but as a planner, administrator, and venue coordinator, not a racer. Mostly the Coors Classic, back in the day, but also local races and fun rides. Also was assigned to attend the World Championships in Colorado Springs as an official observer in 1986 and was involved in preparing permits for the filming of [I]American Flyers[/I] -- kind of a disappointment, because the screenwriter, Steve Tesich, failed to deliver like he did for his Oscar-winning [I]Breaking Away[/I] screenplay. One of my cousins, a mathematician, worked for Ben Sirotta calculating strength and flex characteristics of the [I]Colorado[/I] frame. [/QUOTE]