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Message: [QUOTE="CL82, post: 5071500, member: 44"] Lol, you've listed an unsourced instance that you perceive to be undue influence upon a certain university president At best, that's opinion, not fact. Do you understand the difference? I think you're moving the goalposts a bit. But I'm glad to see that you are willing to acknowledge that athletics bring value to universities. They do, considerable value value. How do we determine value? Well fair market values generally described as the agreed-upon cost by willing buyer and a willing seller, each being reasonably aware of the circumstances. If we apply that to college athletics, then we can accept that the cost of college athletics must be at fair market value. Again, and it's just unclear to me why this point continuously allude you, if there wasn't a perception of value by the administration, they would not do it. Unless you're going to go back to this notion that they are somehow bullied, badgered, or otherwise coerced. Whether or not the tuition reimbursement is inflated, depends upon what the true cost of tuition would be. Let me go back to the example I've already discussed. If you have a student athlete, who would be eligible for need-based scholarships, is it appropriate to charge a full tuition then? In essence you're charging more [I]because[/I] he's an athlete. Does that seem fair? [/QUOTE]