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Message: [QUOTE="HobokenHusky, post: 4720748, member: 2340"] Yea, there is not some grudge here. There likely was in the past, but it's confirmed they almost added us in 2011 or whenever Ville was added. This is all self-preservation. Those schools were smart to bend to FSU and Clemson at that time, it got them the GOR and as a result a dozen years of borrowed time. At this point we need to tread water finance wise and we will end up in a Duke/Cuse/Pitt/Wake conference whenever the ACC football powers figure out how to break free. [/QUOTE]