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Message: [QUOTE="Billy Jack, post: 4349821, member: 4173"] UConn was barely I-A when we won the ‘04 NC and wasn’t competing in an FBS league until the following season. I can’t agree with including that team as one which got a boost from FBS football. Kind of convenient that you made the cut off at 35 years. Had you gone back 3 more years, you would have had to include the Georgetown and Villanova NCs in 1984-85. So, now we have 6 in 38 years. The Big East is the only league that plays basketball at the highest level. When you consider that there are 130 FBS programs and only 11 in the BE, 6 NCs are pretty representative. And we can double that list with 6 more non-football schools who made it to the championship game but lost - in some cases by merely point on a controversial call: 2021 - Gonzaga 2017 - Gonzaga 2011 - Butler 2010 - Butler 1989 - Seton Hall 1985 - Georgetown The non-football schools are no strangers to the championship game. Frankly the argument can be made that football is a deterrent to success in basketball. Here are the only schools to have won 3 or more NCs since 1985: Duke - 5 UConn - 4 UNC - 4 Villanova - 3 Kentucky - 3 Kansas - 3 Those 6 schools have combined to win 22 of the last 38 NCs and all have to be considered weak sisters in football despite the occasional good football season or two here or there. [/QUOTE]