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Message: [QUOTE="MattMang23, post: 1587403, member: 1608"] If Cincy is going to be compared to Louisville, let's look at it: Basketball: Half this board wasn't born the last time Cincy won a national title in 1962. Since that year they have made one final four and two additional elite eights. Louisville has a clear edge. By a lot. Football: 17 bowls, 8 wins. Two BCS appearances, 0-2. (And got smacked by Florida worse than we did against Oklahoma, although they went 12-1 and finished 8th in AP) Advantage Louisville. A little bit closer though. Neilson 2015-2016 DMA rank: Cincinnati, 36th. Louisville, 49th. (Hartford, 30th). Advantage Cincy, although to say either has full command of even their own home city would be foolish- but that's not the point.(UConn has full command of a market that is bigger than either Cincy or Louisville though.) Academics: Cincy T140 USNWR rank. Louisville T168 USNWR rank. Cincy is the taller midget. Team values: Forbes has Louisville ranked as the most valuable NCAA team in basketball. Cincy is unranked. They're both unranked in football. (We are also unranked in both sports.) BIG edge to Louisville. Conclusion: according to important numbers that conference and university execs care about- tv households- Cincy is a viable alternative to Louisville. In everything else, stuff fans care about, athletic success, team value, etc., it's not close. [/QUOTE]