Kentucky trades it's "rich" tradition.....

[Hi-Low]

to become the ultimate 1 and done factory. If Noels, Muhammad, Bennett all commit to KY next week, along with the other 5 star recruits coming in, we'll have the pleasure of watching those freshmen for 40 games until the next batch rolls in to Lexington....great for college basketball....hopefully Squid bails for the NBA and takes his bullshit with him.

I'll take UConn anyday....NCAA trophy returns to Storrs in 2013 (or 2014) with Bazz, Boat, O Calhoun, Daniels, Roscoe, Giffey, TO and a tbd......Go UConn!!!!

 

[Husky Dad]

Emmert loves it.

 

[UConnSwag11]

to become the ultimate 1 and done factory. If Noels, Muhammad, Bennett all commit to KY next week, along with the other 5 star recruits coming in, we'll have the pleasure of watching those freshmen for 40 games until the next batch rolls in to Lexington....great for college basketball....hopefully Squid bails for the NBA and takes his bull**** with him.

I'll take UConn anyday....NCAA trophy returns to Storrs in 2014 with Bazz, Boat, O Calhoun, Daniels, Roscoe, Giffey, TO and a tbd......Go UConn!!!!

agreed... lets make it 2013... keep it positive

 

[Huskymaniac]

What rich tradition? That the father of their basketball program was a racist named "Adolph"?

 

[Ts5034]

And there are wacko's out there who think this is actually good for college basketball

 

[campcalhoun2009]

And there are wacko's out there who think this is actually good for college basketball

And who think Calhoun is dirtier than Cal....bizarro world stuff

 

[Hi-Low]

What rich tradition? That the father of their basketball program was a racist named "Adolph"?

thus the " quotes"......

 

[imno1]

My fellow BYers are so hypocritical. We would take Noels or any of the other 5* recruits without reservation. And if JC coached them to a nc we would praise him up and down. That was a very impressive Kentucky team. I love great college basketball with kids that sacrifice to play as a team. Talent alone does not get it done as we saw with our team this year.

 

[Reno]

And who think Calhoun is dirtier than Cal....bizarro world stuff

Unfortunately, we're the ones who got caught.

 

[cohenzone]

Unfortunately, we're the ones who got caught.

Actually, Calipari has run two programs where violations were found. Each program was sanctioned. Each time, Cal was gone just after the sheriff arrived. The NCAA has this concept of a coach being responsible for promoting an atmosphere of compliance. When a program is sanctioned, the reason is that there has been some degree of more than just minor lack of compliance, or so the NCAA would like us to believe. Calhoun was sanctioned - suspended - not because he was found to have done anything wrong himself, but because he was found to be wanting in promoting an atmosphere of compliance. Cal left two programs to be sanctioned, but somehow, he has never been found wanting. That's 2, count 'em. 2, got caughts and no punishment for the coach.

BTW, this has nothing to do with recruiting one and done's. UConn is recruiting many of the same kids as KY. If AD had played like the #1 recruit he was labeled by many and led us to the NC, UConn fans would be doing handsprings and kissing his heinie even as he departed for millions. Personally, I deplore the one and done's. Makes the idea of a "program" pretty shallow for what is in theory an amateur sport, and I certainly don't blame the kids who are forced into the system for doing what the system is set up to allow.

 

[Reno]

Neither of Calipari's vacated Final Fours were because of violations that can be pinned on him and we all like to forget the we also vacated the 1996 season because Ricky Moore and Kirk King took gifts from the same agent as Camby. The most likely reality is that the guy doesn't do anything worse than anyone else does, he just does it better and smarter, and most importantly doesn't get caught.

If you really believe that Calhoun didn't know about the Nate Miles situation completely then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. It's college basketball, it's a corrupt business masquerading as an amateur competition. Get over it.

 

[Sully]

Haters hate just for the sake of it. I for one want to congratulate Kentucky for a great season. They were clearly the best team. Beware those who live in glass houses.... Hypocrisy it is everywhere, do yourself a favor and take the high road.

 

[cohenzone]

Neither of Calipari's vacated Final Fours were because of violations that can be pinned on him and we all like to forget the we also vacated the 1996 season because Ricky Moore and Kirk King took gifts from the same agent as Camby. The most likely reality is that the guy doesn't do anything worse than anyone else does, he just does it better and smarter, and most importantly doesn't get caught.

If you really believe that Calhoun didn't know about the Nate Miles situation completely then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. It's college basketball, it's a corrupt business masquerading as an amateur competition. Get over it.

I have nothing to get over. So, Calhoun knew about Miles (maybe), but Cal was just the innocent bystander in the both cases that cost his programs but not him. I think you bought the bridge, so you may keep it for your personal pleasure. It is all about the NCAA being all over the place with its administration and if you have trouble with that notion, be my guest.

 

[Reno]

He's not an innocent bystander, but he was smart enough to not get caught doing anything that would result in a suspension. That's his best coaching skill, in my opinion.

 

[businesslawyer]

What rich tradition? That the father of their basketball program was a racist named "Adolph"?

I'm confused. The south was still under the rule of Jim Crow until the '60s. Not the State of Kentucky under the leadership of Adolph Rupp. The south.

What in the world does that have to do with Kentucky's history of winning basketball games?

 

[willie99]

Neither of Calipari's vacated Final Fours were because of violations that can be pinned on him and we all like to forget the we also vacated the 1996 season because Ricky Moore and Kirk King took gifts from the same agent as Camby. The most likely reality is that the guy doesn't do anything worse than anyone else does, he just does it better and smarter, and most importantly doesn't get caught.

If you really believe that Calhoun didn't know about the Nate Miles situation completely then I have a bridge I'd like to sell you. It's college basketball, it's a corrupt business masquerading as an amateur competition. Get over it.

you're the one that evidently bought that bridge, you're stuck with it now

why would Calhoun have to pay for Miles? a kid nobody else wanted?

and why would he have to pay for Miles having a minor surgery on his ankles 18 months after he committed? when the school would have paid for such once he was on campus

Miles was all about a wannabe agent trying to get his foot in the door, and the scumbag wannabe agent found a weak link. If such wannabe was not a UConn alum, Calhoun receives no punishment. But JC is responsible for the actions of every person that attended UConn, every booster and every season ticket holder. Thus the school was punished.

Calhoun made King & Moore turn themselves in once he learned about the violation, while Squid ran away. Does that mean anything? does that differentiate the two?

critical thinking 101

 

[Reno]

The obsession with Kentucky and the delusion most of the posters here have about our own program is kind of weird.

 

[HuskyHawk]

For what it's worth, they do have a rich tradition. As does Kansas, North Carolina and now UConn. Like it or not, we have much in common with those fans, who all have mediocre or afterthought football programs, but who embrace college basketball with passion and enthusiasm.

While I dislike coach Cal and the arogance of some UK fans, I don't doubt that some view UConn that way as well. But on the whole, I prefer if basketball success stays with the basketball schools, and not football powers like Ohio State, Michigan, LSU, Alabama or Florida.

I don't like the one and done approach, but that feeling is made worse when so many of them are combined at one school. We're likely to lose a freshman and sophomore as well.

 

[CL82]

Unfortunately, we're the ones who got caught.

Caught? Doing what? Having kids move on to pro careers? Caught ...sheesh!

 

[aceboon]

The obsession with Kentucky and the delusion most of the posters here have about our own program is kind of weird.

Agreed, I don't care either way because cbb is dirty all the way around but I can't imagine what the reaction would be like here if Calipari had been caught up in that Miles/Nochimson fiasco.

 

[Reno]

you're the one that evidently bought that bridge, you're stuck with it now

why would Calhoun have to pay for Miles? a kid nobody else wanted?

and why would he have to pay for Miles having a minor surgery on his ankles 18 months after he committed? when the school would have paid for such once he was on campus

Miles was all about a wannabe agent trying to get his foot in the door, and the scumbag wannabe agent found a weak link. If such wannabe was not a UConn alum, Calhoun receives no punishment. But JC is responsible for the actions of every person that attended UConn, every booster and every season ticket holder. Thus the school was punished.

Calhoun made King & Moore turn themselves in once he learned about the violation, while Squid ran away. Does that mean anything? does that differentiate the two?

critical thinking 101

Are you mentally handicapped? You think that Jim Calhoun didn't know that the "wannabe agent" was involved with Nate Miles from the start? There were many, many phone calls between the staff and the guy and you actually believe a control freak like Calhoun had no idea?! I mean, it's one thing to say there wasn't any evidence or that the NCAA couldn't prove it, but to actually believe that was the case....

And like I said the only reason we don't have a vacated Final Four is we weren't good enough to make the Final Four in 1996. What exactly was Calipari running from? The only punishments for those violations were to vacate the wins for the season. It wouldn't have impacted his position in any way. The reality is that he went chasing a pay day after his star player went to the NBA, not that he was running from the violations, but go ahead and continue to live in your deluded little world where UConn is the cleanest program in the land and everyone is out to get us.

 

[cohenzone]

The obsession with Kentucky and the delusion most of the posters here have about our own program is kind of weird.

Um, not sure who you are referring to. I'm pretty embarrassed about our program. And frankly, the way Calhoun handles himself during games isn't my favorite thing about him nor do I think he needs to be in the occasional business of recruiting certain kids with baggage, even if trying to become a positive influence isn't a horrible motive. But he did build a great program and stuck with it.

Kentucky has nothing to do with the issue, it is their coach, a point that seems to elude you. A true hired gun if there ever was one, looking to move along for the next big chance, but that is his prerogative and he is not alone in the coaching world in that respect. But if you think that the guy has been a net plus for the programs he has left behind, then it might be a good idea for you to build permanent residence on that bridge.

 

[Reno]

UMass didn't have any chance of being a long-term success in the A-10 and Memphis is doing alright for themselves with Pastner.

 

[Scot-e]

This is a strange thread.

Uk does not have to be dirty- they are the ultimate one and done stop over on the way to the NBA. There is a big difference between Uk and Umass or UMem- the squid found the school were his "skill set" works well. That does not mean they are going to win a ton of NC. I am convinced the NC can be directly linked to T Jones staying in school. He just does not get players who are willing to do that very often- when he does they are going to be a top of the food chain team the following year.

We have no current problems at our program that were not created before this current class of players hit the court for us. Why our own fans have to be coo coo for co co puffs is beyond me- leave it for the haters. We may have one year that we can not play post season- then JC is going to retire in the next year or two. We will have a new coach and a new basketball facility- and it will take several years to build our program back. Look at Uk, Arizona for example when they lost their long time coaches- it does not happen over night. We will not be talking about NCs- but about basketball and the progress our program is making to get back on top and there is nothing wrong with that in any way.

I am happy some of our fans have become spoiled rotten- it means we have had some really good times the last ten plus years. I am looking forward to the next ten years- but it is not going to be the same. My point is we will have enough challenges without our fans creating more drama.

Next year we will have a top 3 pick in the draft (if he stays), RS who is going to be great, two fantastic guards, the NY player of the year, DD who will be much much better and a cast of quality role players. Most teams would kill for that line up. In 1999 we had one pro on our team- thats all you need.

WE ARE DOOMED!

 

[willie99]

Are you mentally handicapped? You think that Jim Calhoun didn't know that the "wannabe agent" was involved with Nate Miles from the start? There were many, many phone calls between the staff and the guy and you actually believe a control freak like Calhoun had no idea?! I mean, it's one thing to say there wasn't any evidence or that the NCAA couldn't prove it, but to actually believe that was the case....

And like I said the only reason we don't have a vacated Final Four is we weren't good enough to make the Final Four in 1996. What exactly was Calipari running from? The only punishments for those violations were to vacate the wins for the season. It wouldn't have impacted his position in any way. The reality is that he went chasing a pay day after his star player went to the NBA, not that he was running from the violations, but go ahead and continue to live in your deluded little world where UConn is the cleanest program in the land and everyone is out to get us.

many many phone calls? really? the guy was friends with people at UConn. That's simply not evidence. If you were right, Calhoun's career would be over. Of course, you still can't answer why Calhoun would have to pay for a guy nobody else wanted.

what was Squid running from? you'll have to axe him why he moved out of town in the middle of the night. I guess some might consider abruptly leaving two schools that were subsequently disciplined normal behavior, others think that carries more weight.

I'm not here saying it is what it is because I say it is what it is, I don't have a bridge to sell and I didn't put words in your mouth, you did all of that. I ask people to consider the situation, all the variables, how violations were handled, who is a stand up a guy, AND the results of a years long NCAA investigation / audit of the program and arrive at a reasonable conclusion. You're the spoon fed media headline type of guy.

good luck with your bridge