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OT: Kentucky NIL is out of hand

Kirby sells kids on being their path to the NFL (which is far more established than UConn and the NBA).
Just like Cal does. And refresh my memory, what did GA football do between Herschel and Smart? I'm just a casual CFB follower and nothing comes to my mind.
 
Uggh - modern era please. It is REALLY hard to qualify their 4 titles pre 1958 other than pieces for a museum. I'll even give them the 1978 title as part of the conversation, since they beat Duke.

Yale could brag about having the best college football program of all time with their 18 titles. Get what I'm saying?
I get it. The quote about no championships for UK I don't agree with. Recently, not much, thanks to Calipari. But Kansas, UNC also have titles that go way back (with recent success also). I just view the history of the game in a different way.
 
Texas and USC are at the top. OSU spent far more than $20 million last year, that number was just for transfers.
That's not what any of the articles say. They say the $20 million was for their entire roster. Where did you see that was just for transfers? Imagine being a star player on the team and seeing all the transfers get way more than you're getting? That would be a chemistry nightmare.

As ESPN describes, Ohio State poured the $20 million dollars from its NIL fund into building its 2024 roster, drawing from the transfer portal and recruiting class and also enticing some Buckeye players from going to the NFL.



 
I know there are a lot of uber wealthy people in the US and they can allocate their money as they wish. Many of those people made money by investing and getting a return on their investments. I’m just wondering if there will come time when the donors will expect anything more than good seats and a chance their school plays well?
 
I get it. The quote about no championships for UK I don't agree with. Recently, not much, thanks to Calipari. But Kansas, UNC also have titles that go way back (with recent success also). I just view the history of the game in a different way.
The different way imo is that UConn is the best. They’re relatively late comers who some don’t view as a blue blood (that depends on how you want to define it and that’s fine) but for those that are living and breathing today the Huskies are certifiably the top dogs!
 
It's grotesque and it's money wasted. I don't see it making much of a difference. Basketball has 5 starters and they maybe go up to 5 deep on the bench. Always have, always will. Programs like Kentucky have always had some of the best players so nothing really changes. It's not like paying the best kids more money is going to make them better, or allow you to play more kids in a 40 minute game. I know they'll be able to lure the diamonds in the rough through the portal with NIL so I suppose that could have an impact. If anything, all that cash may have a negative impact on some diaper dandies. It's human nature.
 
The different way imo is that UConn is the best. They’re relatively late comers who some don’t view as a blue blood (that depends on how you want to define it and that’s fine) but for those that are living and breathing today the Huskies are certifiably the top dogs!
I pretty much see it this way too and that’s why I respect Duke’s status substantially more than UCLA, KY, and UNC. Duke has nearly as many championships as UConn in essentially the same timeframe but with more success in the non-championship years.
 
Just like Cal does. And refresh my memory, what did GA football do between Herschel and Smart? I'm just a casual CFB follower and nothing comes to my mind.
Just like Cal or just like Hurley? Landrew just committed -- likely for less -- because Hurley sold him on being his best path to the NBA.

Georgia football was from casual recall typically the second best team in the SEC East to Florida (they did have their bad coaching hire and took time to recover). When Georgia did have their moments and played in the SEC championship game it was against the best team in the best division in college football. So there title hopes ended there because they could never overcome those opponents (and still can't beat Alabama).
 
That's not what any of the articles say. They say the $20 million was for their entire roster. Where did you see that was just for transfers? Imagine being a star player on the team and seeing all the transfers get way more than you're getting? That would be a chemistry nightmare.
I honestly don't remember where that Spring of 2024 info came from. Of course where these numbers come from and their length of time involved are often sketchy.

Jimbo's last year in Texas A&M had a rumored absurd figure over $50 million attached to their recruiting class. The actual terms are unknown (and the players pretty much all transferred after one failed season so who knows how much illicit money the players actually did see).

You can believe the OSU self-reported number that serves them and it still is a large number (and who knows how accurate the UK number is).

I did see that most schools (including SEC programs) were trying figure out where they are going up with the $20m number for all sports let alone just football or basketball.
 
Hasn't been true in quite a long time. The Dodgers have been the biggest spenders in MLB for years. And in 2025 the Dodgers were #2 behind the Mets.
You know what I'm talking about - over the past 2.5 decades the Yankees have spent the most money and have one chip.
 
Hasn't been true in quite a long time. The Dodgers have been the biggest spenders in MLB for years. And in 2025 the Dodgers were #2 behind the Mets.
Over the past 25 years the Yanks have spent the most money and have one chip to show for it.
 
As a UConn and Big East fan I am not terribly concerned about the Kentucky NIL because I don't think you can spend yourself into a championship. In professional sports the highest payroll does not directly correlate to the most success. For example in major league baseball (which has no real salary cap and minimal guardrails against organizations looking to outspend the competition) the teams remaining in the playoffs are ranked 2, 5, 16 and 23 in terms of highest payroll. Of the top 10 MLB payrolls in 2025, 4 missed the playoffs entirely, including the team with the highest payroll. Also keep in mind that in college basketball you have a roster of 15, however it's the first 7 to 9 members of the team that will usually determine the success of the team in any given season, so the total payroll may not correlate to amounts needed to pay and retain the top tier of the roster, which is the key to roster construction in the NIL era.
You can't really compare it to pro sports because pro sports have a draft, arbitration, etc. Most of the biggest baseball stars are under control of the team that drafted them until they're close to 30, so I think the payroll gap in MLB can be a little misleading. Paul Skenes, for instance, made $740K last season and probably something similar this year. Tarik Skubal made $2.5 million last year and $10 million this year despite being worth probably 5x that much on the open market. A lot of times, the small market teams end up getting a player's best years while the big markets pay a premium for declining, broken down stars.

Point is, there are built-in advantages for the have-nots in professional sports that do not exist in college. What concerns me moving forward isn't whether we can get the players, but whether we can keep them. Guys like Calhoun made a career out of nabbing underrated recruits because he essentially had them locked up for 3-4 years once they got to campus. I think UConn men's basketball will always have enough booster support to bring in good players, but to build a champion you're going to need the money to keep them. We seem to be on the right side of that ledger...for now. But schools like FAU and Iona that built championship quality rosters only to be raided by the P2 provide a cautionary tale of what can happen if the gap ever grows too wide.
 
That amount does surprise me. Ohio State spent about $20 million on their football team last year. And football has a lot more players and also I'm sure OSU football makes a lot more money than Kentucky basketball. So yeah that number is surprising. At least OSU did win the championship. Let's see what Kentucky does.

Yes, totally agreed. OSU brings in probably 150MM in revenue for football, Kentucky probably $40MM, so it's really insane to spend the same on players...
 
Yes, totally agreed. OSU brings in probably 150MM in revenue for football, Kentucky probably $40MM, so it's really insane to spend the same on players...
Agreed, but for the folk handing over the money, I am not sure the profitability of the program is all that important. Even in the anOSU case, it was about Michigan winning a title.

Are you concerned with UConn profit margin from sports and their athletic accomplishments (outside of that lack of income impacting future winning)?
 






Father-Daughter Dance
Marc D'Amelio '91 (CLAS) — who with daughters Charli and Dixie is a social media and reality TV star — talks parenting, TikTok, bleeding blue, and Beavis and Butthead.

By Kim Krieger
Photo by Peter Morenus

Marc D'Amelio '91 (CLAS) describes himself as a man without a lot of hobbies. But he has helped his daughters, Dixie, 21, and Charli, 18, rise to TikTok stardom, moved cross-country, partnered with Abercrombie & Fitch on a new line of branded apparel, become a reality TV star, and won Best New Unscripted TV Series at the MTV Movie Awards for "The D'Amelio Show," all in just three years during a pandemic. And while he may have moved to Hollywood, D'Amelio still has hometown and Husky pride.

The native Norwalker's next project, branded D'Amelio Huskies Collective, was created to help UConn student-athletes develop and control their own name, image, and likeness. We checked in with him while he was back home in Norwalk in July.

You are known as a true-blue Husky.

When I went there, UConn was an underdog — it was a school that was affordable. I transferred from community college and it's almost as if I grew with the school. I remember telling my grandmother I was going to UConn, and she thought I was going to Canada! And now when you say UConn, there's not a person who follows colleges who doesn't know where it is.

And my love of the City of Norwalk is so important to me, for similar reasons. We're surrounded by all these affluent towns, and sometimes the schools get a bad rap. When we had the opportunity to move to Westport or Darien, we came back here to Norwalk. I'm loyal in that way. And that's the same way I feel about UConn. If I can create a buzz about the University of Connecticut, if I can use my platform to do that, I'll do it. I do think sometimes people who follow me for Dixie and Charli information go, "Aw, he's talking about the University of Connecticut again!"

I don't know what it is. It's just that time of your life when you're figuring things out and learning how to be on your own and navigating through life, and UConn helped me do that. I didn't meet my wife at UConn, but my roommate from college ended up running World Gyms in NYC, and my wife was a personal trainer there. If I didn't go to UConn, I would never have met my wife!

Where did you spend most of your time at UConn?

I transferred up there and lived in Towers and joined Sigma Phi Epsilon fraternity. And I DJ'ed at Huskies.

What kind of music did you play?

R&B and hip-hop. It happened as kind of a fluke. It was one of those long weekends where everyone came back on Sunday. The manager said, "We have such a crowd, I wish we had some music," and I said, "This kid has all these records, I can go grab 'em." And then we performed, and the place went wild. The manager said, "Do you want to work here?" And I ended up becoming the Thursday night DJ for two years.
 
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Just like Cal or just like Hurley? Landrew just committed -- likely for less -- because Hurley sold him on being his best path to the NBA.

Georgia football was from casual recall typically the second best team in the SEC East to Florida (they did have their bad coaching hire and took time to recover). When Georgia did have their moments and played in the SEC championship game it was against the best team in the best division in college football. So there title hopes ended there because they could never overcome those opponents (and still can't beat Alabama).
So you agree Georgia did nothing in all that time?
 
I'm not sure what the original article is stating. $22 million payroll for basketball. Then Pope says it's well over $200 million, joking? So by payroll, they are referring to payroll plus NIL I guess. Probably the same situation at the large P4 schools.

Point is, there are built-in advantages for the have-nots in professional sports that do not exist in college. What concerns me moving forward isn't whether we can get the players, but whether we can keep them. Guys like Calhoun made a career out of nabbing underrated recruits because he essentially had them locked up for 3-4 years once they got to campus. I think UConn men's basketball will always have enough booster support to bring in good players, but to build a champion you're going to need the money to keep them. We seem to be on the right side of that ledger...for now. But schools like FAU and Iona that built championship quality rosters only to be raided by the P2 provide a cautionary tale of what can happen if the gap ever grows too wide.
UConn should be able to stay on the right side of that ledger. The exceptional players will succeed and/or leave early for the NBA (Alex Karaban, Tristen Newton, Stephon Castle). We've already seen players who haven't panned out leave for other programs which is probably best for the player and for UConn. Guys who are in the middle, I think they will want to remain part of UConn Basketball with a chance to win a ring. There may be the rare stud who thinks he can do better somewhere else, sure it may happen. But rarely.
 
So you agree Georgia did nothing in all that time?
Let me get back to you in a couple of days to tell you how many times they ended up in the top 10 and 25 while doing "nothing." (Or perhaps not.) They weren't chopped liver.

But yes, Kirby has them where they haven't been since Vince Dooley.
 
Let me get back to you in a couple of days to tell you how many times they ended up in the top 10 and 25 while doing "nothing." (Or perhaps not.) They weren't chopped liver.

But yes, Kirby has them where they haven't been since Vince Dooley.
 

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