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Message: [QUOTE="Waquoit, post: 3147827, member: 50"] There really is no "derby winning price" for a horse as a potential stallion. Winning the Derby is just one factor. He showed he could carry his speed for a distance, that's very desirable and the DQ doesn't erase that. In fact, not too many Derby winners over the past 40 years have been great stallions. Seattle Slew was. So was Sunday Silence but he did all his work in Japan. None of the current top money stallions are Derby winners though American Pharoah is getting some heat. The owners didn't think much of this horse as a potential sire as they ran him in a[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claiming_race'] claiming race[/URL] early on. [/QUOTE]