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Kentucky Center Decommitts

I think any 5* recruits at least deserves a call from "the bluest of the blue bloods"..... UConn.

FYI, I literally spit out my water when I heard the Squid utter those words in his goodbye video. Hilarious and dillusional. I think that lack of reality might explain his lack of success.
 
UCTitleTown said:
I think any 5* recruits at least deserves a call from "the bluest of the blue bloods"..... UConn.

FYI, I literally spit out my water when I heard the Squid utter those words in his goodbye video. Hilarious and dillusional. I think that lack of reality might explain his lack of success.
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No, He's right. That's exactly why they land the best recruits year after year. They are a lot like Uconn; Kentucky like Connecticut has no professional Sports of note. They've won titles with 3 coaches in the last 30 years. Their fans and Alumni love and support their program. The problem was that the Squid was not the "bluest of blue" Coaches, while Hurly has ascended into one.
 
I just have no interest in 5* centers. They're the 1st round fantasy RBs of recruits. If it works out, they're unstoppable. But way too often they miss and then bolt to league based on potential and measurables and you're left with nothing.
 
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Cal said he focused on offense last year because his players couldn't play defense.

Contrast with Castle saying he couldn't play defense when he got to UConn because his high school coach didn't ask him to play defense. Yet somehow, in his freshman year with Dan Hurley he becomes one of the best defense players in the country.

HHHmmmmmmm. Maybe the problem was Cal didn't (or couldn't) teach his players to play defense.
 
Cal isn’t a developer he’s an agent. The whole I’ll get you 5* guys to the league shows you how ridiculous the recruits themselves are. He literally just kept them from getting drafted out if high school for a decade. What top 10 high schoolers weren’t getting drafted anyway? It was snake oil.
 
auror said:
I just have no interest in 5* centers. They're the 1st round fantasy RBs of recruits. If it works out, they're unstoppable. But way too often they miss and then bolt to league based on potential and measurables and you're left with nothing.
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I thought I would have to troll you into a post like this, but you did it all by yourself.
 
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auror said:
I just have no interest in 5* centers. They're the 1st round fantasy RBs of recruits. If it works out, they're unstoppable. But way too often they miss and then bolt to league based on potential and measurables and you're left with nothing.
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^^This guy gets it
 
auror said:
I just have no interest in 5* centers. They're the 1st round fantasy RBs of recruits. If it works out, they're unstoppable. But way too often they miss and then bolt to league based on potential and measurables and you're left with nothing.
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Castle is most likely a one and done. So if the recruit does play to the style and benefits the team and not just himself, I'd say get him.
 
auror said:
I just have no interest in 5* centers. They're the 1st round fantasy RBs of recruits. If it works out, they're unstoppable. But way too often they miss and then bolt to league based on potential and measurables and you're left with nothing.
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For what it’s worth Quaintance reclassified and is so young that he will not be eligible to enter the draft until after his sophomore year. With that being said, I think a reclassified freshman and Johnson would present a lot of downside at the 5 compared to a stud from the portal.
 
TheChamps990411 said:
Sleepers media reported St. Louis, Illinois, Indiana, Duke and Uconn have been mentioned. Take that with a grain of salt.
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Did they say UConn was mentioned? I thought they were just tossing out ideas. I was only half paying attention while watching my son though.
 
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UConnSwag11 said:
So put off winning to develop players…? Wut
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That's what the bench is for. It's gotta be a rotation. Donovan is a 2nd year player. Samson is a 3rd year player. Sanogo was a 3rd year player.

You don't win with most of the 5* freshmen bigs.

Here are the 247 composite 5* freshmen bigs (at least 6'10" or at least 230 lbs) for the last 3 years, their PPG, and their team's tourny seed/finish (* if they left the team after the season):
2023
Aaron Bradshaw - 4.9ppg, 3 seed/R64*
Omaha Bilew - 2.4 ppg, 2 seed/S16*
Xavier Booker - 3.7 ppg, 9 seed/R32
Kwame Evans - 7.3 ppg, 11 seed/R32
Sean Stewart - 2.6 ppg, 4 seed/E8
2022
Dereck Lively - 5.2 ppg, 5 seed/R32*
Kyle Filipowski - 15.1 ppg, 5 seed/R32
Kel'el Ware - 6.6 ppg, no tourny*
Adem Bona - 7.7 ppg, 2 seed/S16
Yohan Traore - 2.1 ppg, 9 seed/R32*
Vincent Iwuchukwu - 5.4 ppg, 10 seed/R64
2021
Chet Holmgren - 14.1 ppg, 1 seed/S16*
Paolo Banchero - 17.2 ppg, 2 seed/F4*
Jalen Duren - 12 ppg, 9 seed/R32*
Jabari Smith - 16.9 ppg, 2 seed/R32*
Moussa Diabate - 9 ppg, 9 seed/S16*
Brandon Huntley-Hatfield - 3.9 ppg, 3 seed/R32*
Efton Reid - 6.3 ppg, 6 seed, R64*
Nathan Bittle - 1.7 ppg, no tourny

So 19 guys, 2 made the Elite 8 and one of those guys was a bench guy who got less than 10 minutes per game.

That's why I made the first round RB analogy. If you get a Chet/Paolo/Jabari/Filipowski, then it works out (to an extent), especially Filipowski since he came back for year 2. But there are 8 guys (and up to 10 depending on Evans and Booker) on this list that averaged less than 10 ppg and then left the team after the season. So they were mostly bad and then didn't even develop to be good later. Mostly disasters. Of the other 3 guys that came back after scoring less than 10, only Bona really made strides and lived up to his potential.

It's a more than 50% landmine rate with like a 25% hit rate.
 
UConnSwag11 said:
Probably following his coach and I think he’d get eaten alive in the big east
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He held his own against SMU, Minnesota, Utah, Seton Hall and probably one I'm forgetting in the NIT. When he was double -teamed or well guarded he dished off for assist, reminiscent of Clingan this year. I think if he can play against P4 on a national, televised stage, he'd do just fine here. He might not be a stat stuffer or lottery pick in the making, but he's unselfish, works hard, coachable, and an experienced upper classman. I'd take him in a second.

And if you saw the way he was after losing that final to Seton Hall, you know he's invested.
 
Don’t think this is a hot take, but if there’s a 5* player that committed to Calipari and Kentucky, that tells me that their 1st and only priority is to get to the NBA as soon as they can

That’s not a bad thing. It would be my priority too if I was in that position, but not a type of player Hurley is interested in
 
REB1094 said:
That’s not a bad thing. It would be my priority too if I was in that position, but not a type of player Hurley is interested in
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We recruited three of those types of players — Flagg, Ngongba and Edgecomb — this winter. We just don’t often land them.

Hurley’s next task is going to be getting these kids and getting them to buy in like Castle did (and castle, for the record, was never anything but a one-and-done).
 
Any word of UConn interest? Feel like the draw to Ngonba was he likely wasn't a 1 and done. Don't know anything about this kid, but if he is a 1 and done, perhaps Dan Hurley prioritizes portal instead?
 
AdamaNation said:
Cal isn’t a developer he’s an agent. The whole I’ll get you 5* guys to the league shows you how ridiculous the recruits themselves are. He literally just kept them from getting drafted out if high school for a decade. What top 10 high schoolers weren’t getting drafted anyway? It was snake oil.
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I agree, Hurley's sales pitch is exactly the opposite. Callipari become beholden to his players, but Hurley's become beholden to UConn.
 
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