KenPom Rankings

[Kangaroo Zay]

UConn at 71 in KenPom for 2020.

AAC (7th Highest-Rated Conference)
Cincinnati - 27
Houston - 29
Memphis - 50
Wichita State - 62
UConn - 71
USF - 76
SMU - 84
Temple - 94
Tulsa - 100
UCF - 102
ECU - 238
Tulane - 288

Big East (2nd Highest-Rated Conference)
Villanova - 8
Marquette - 17
Xavier - 18
Seton Hall - 20
Providence - 31
Butler - 33
Creighton - 36
Georgetown - 66
DePaul - 77
St John’s - 95

UConn Non-Conference Schedule with Preseason KenPom Rankings
Sacred Heart (232)
Saint Joseph's (216)
Florida (12)
Buffalo (93)
Xavier (18) or Towson (161)
Maine (336)
Iona (183)
Indiana (34)
Saint Peter's (316)
New Hampshire (323)
NJIT (140)
Villanova (8)

 

[Hey Adrien!]

Ken Pomeroy is the man, but can't put a lot of weight in these specific rankings since they are purely data driven and no data has been accumulated.

The way it looks now, teams from stronger conferences are weighed higher, but mid-major teams with real top-25 potential (Dayton at 57, Davidson at 61, New Mexico State at 64, Utah State at 68, BYU at 72...) are ranked much lower.

For example, it's hard to believe that Pittsburgh is currently a better team than Utah State or Wake Forest is better than Vermont.

 

[Dooooooomed]

"The leagues are headed in opposite directions."

 

[tcf15]

I can't wait to go back to the Big East.

 

[HuskyHawk]

Pre season rankings are garbage. Ken has no idea which kids made a big improvement, which didn’t. He has no idea which incoming freshmen will have a major impact and which won’t.

UConn started the 2016-17 season at #18. They saw a good freshman class, Purvis and Larrier and Adams plus Senior Brimah and Facey.

This season I think they ranked us very cautiously. Not taking our freshmen into account, not considering improvements from Polley, Carlton and others, not considering Gilbert getting a true offseason for the first time ever.

 

[Dooooooomed]

Pre season rankings are garbage. Ken has no idea which kids made a big improvement, which didn’t. He has no idea which incoming freshmen will have a major impact and which won’t.

UConn started the 2016-17 season at #18. They saw a good freshman class, Purvis and Larrier and Adams plus Senior Brimah and Facey.

This season I think they ranked us very cautiously. Not taking our freshmen into account, not considering improvements from Polley, Carlton and others, not considering Gilbert getting a true offseason for the first time ever.

We finished last season #98 in KenPom. He must have taken some of that into account to bump us up 27 spots.

 

[Hey Adrien!]

Pre season rankings are garbage. Ken has no idea which kids made a big improvement, which didn’t. He has no idea which incoming freshmen will have a major impact and which won’t.

Ken's rankings are solely data driven, so these rankings are pretty pointless with so much team turnover across the league. It's another thing if it's someone like Seth Davis or Dana O'Neil giving their preseason rankings which blend data with personal analysis and opinion.

However, looking at Ken's data at the end of the season is a lot of fun to do and I spend hours on his site come January, February, March.

 

[DaveHuskiesFan]

Some facts:

10/10 Big East teams in the top 100
7/10 Big East teams in the top 36
1/12 American teams in the top 36
Big East predicted to be the 2nd best conference this year (16.14 rating)
American Predicted to be the 7th best conference (8.85 rating)

The big east is predicted to be 2x as good as the American.

The MAC is almost as close to the American (7.8 diff) as the the American is to the Big East (7.29 diff)

 

[auror]

Clear up a few things...

Kenpom doesn't take conferences into account.

It does take recent performance of school/coach in as an institution weight.

It does track average player improvement by year in usage/efficiency.

It does not much take into account freshman below 30th rank, because generally they are net negatives to very slight net positives and on average don't matter in grand scheme of things that year.

Akok does put our ranking in flux a bit. He has an RSCI of 64, but a top 30 ranking in 1 service and no ranks in a couple (and 60-80 range by others). In short, he's a bigger wildcard than most freshmen and he'll play a lot of minutes this year. Enrolling early also may give him better odds to make an impact than average freshmen.

 

[gampelcrazies]

Some facts:

10/10 Big East teams in the top 100
7/10 Big East teams in the top 36
1/12 American teams in the top 36
Big East predicted to be the 2nd best conference this year (16.14 rating)
American Predicted to be the 7th best conference (8.85 rating)

The big east is predicted to be 2x as good as the American.

The MAC is almost as close to the American (7.8 diff) as the the American is to the Big East (7.29 diff)

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“Zombie Big East”

 

[Waquoit]

Don't forget UConn screws KenPom up

 

[Scrutiner]

UConn at 71 in KenPom for 2020.

AAC (7th Highest-Rated Conference)
Cincinnati - 27
Houston - 29
Memphis - 50
Wichita State - 62
UConn - 71
USF - 76
SMU - 84
Temple - 94
Tulsa - 100
UCF - 102
ECU - 238
Tulane - 288

Big East (2nd Highest-Rated Conference)
Villanova - 8
Marquette - 17
Xavier - 18
Seton Hall - 20
Providence - 31
Butler - 33
Creighton - 36
Georgetown - 66
DePaul - 77
St John’s - 95

UConn Non-Conference Schedule with Preseason KenPom Rankings
Sacred Heart (232)
Saint Joseph's (216)
Florida (12)
Buffalo (93)
Xavier (18) or Towson (161)
Maine (336)
Iona (183)
Indiana (34)
Saint Peter's (316)
New Hampshire (323)
NJIT (140)
Villanova (8)

So, we're good for ninth in the NBE. Whoopee. Can't wait to see how wrong he is.

 

[ToolzieFan]

So, we're good for ninth in the NBE. Whoopee. Can't wait to see how wrong he is.

Again, HE isn’t right or wrong about anything. It’s an objective rating method. Preseason ratings really can’t capture any individual player improvement or the impact of all freshmen, so it’s just a general idea as a starting point. Gilbert, if healthy, could exceed his projections. Akok and Bouknight might very well outplay their rankings coming in. For that reason, starting at 71 doesn’t seem bad to me. That is right in line with my expectation that we will be a tournament team if everything goes right, and that we will be at least an NIT team with just neutral luck.

 

[ucp990411]

So, we're good for ninth in the NBE. Whoopee. Can't wait to see how wrong he is.

I seem to remember a year we ended up 9th in the Big East and the season ended just fine.

 

[Towney007]

I think it's a reasonable ranking right now. Right on the periphery of the bubble.

Things go well - we've got a shot at the tournament. Things don't, this is around where we'll be.

Also - these have past years factored in - so this ranking I wouldn't put TOO MUCH stock in until a few weeks into the season when the previous year's detritus clears out.

 

[Dooooooomed]

Some facts:

10/10 Big East teams in the top 100
7/10 Big East teams in the top 36
1/12 American teams in the top 36
Big East predicted to be the 2nd best conference this year (16.14 rating)
American Predicted to be the 7th best conference (8.85 rating)

The big east is predicted to be 2x as good as the American.

The MAC is almost as close to the American (7.8 diff) as the the American is to the Big East (7.29 diff)

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Preseason AP Poll Voters (AP Top 25 Poll) seem to agree:

AAC:

14. Memphis
36. Houston (RV)
38. Cincinnati (RV)

Big East:

10. Nova
12. Seton Hall
19. Xavier
29. Marquette (RV)
36. Georgetown (RV)
40. Creighton (RV)
50. Providence (RV)

 

[HuskyHawk]

Preseason AP Poll Voters (AP Top 25 Poll) seem to agree:

AAC:

14. Memphis
36. Houston (RV)
38. Cincinnati (RV)

Big East:

10. Nova
12. Seton Hall
19. Xavier
29. Marquette (RV)
36. Georgetown (RV)
40. Creighton (RV)
50. Providence (RV)

Actually, that suggests that the AP poll voters rate the American quite a bit more highly than KenPom does. Not saying it will prove to be accurate, or that Ken's rankings will.

 

[auror]

Actually, that suggests that the AP poll voters rate the American quite a bit more highly than KenPom does. Not saying it will prove to be accurate, or that Ken's rankings will.

Kinda all over the map. Memphis 36 spots better in AP. Houston 7 spots worse. Cincy 11 spots worse.

 

[Dooooooomed]

Actually, that suggests that the AP poll voters rate the American quite a bit more highly than KenPom does. Not saying it will prove to be accurate, or that Ken's rankings will.

The rankings vary, but it's spot on in terms of predicting the Big East will be twice as good, if not even greater.

 

[AuRevoirAAC]

I seem to remember a year we ended up 9th in the Big East and the season ended just fine.

I often wonder what Ben Hansbrough is doing these days...

 

[HooperScooper]

I often wonder what Ben Hansbrough is doing these days...

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