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Message: [QUOTE="Dream Jobbed 2.0, post: 2038580, member: 7159"] I think the 12 seed wins like 70% of the time. If we lost in the finals to Memphis last year we would have probably been a 12 seed and would not have had to face #1 overall Kansas. 12 is one of the better seeds to be. 7-11 are tough because any way you slice it you have to have to beat a top 3 seed (barring another huge upset) to get to the sweet 16. If you're a 12 you need to beat at most a 4 seed. These types of things are the glaring flaws with the tourney but also what makes it great. [/QUOTE]