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Message: [QUOTE="cohenzone, post: 3238245, member: 504"] I think the old Keney layout was harder. A lot of the trees have been taken down. The two holes made much easier were two of the more punishing holes if you missed the green. That’s 4 and 5 4 is much.easier if you miss the green and the steep slope to 5 is now terraced. Par is still 70 so scores might seem a little lower. The prices are pretty much typical for the area, but even though much. higher than the. old course, play is way up and for any people who be,Ive in the myth that playing there was life threatening, the relatively high number of middle aged women playing there now should provide peace of mind. The overall facilities are much better with a good restaurant and a practice area where the lower parking lot used to be. [/QUOTE]