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Why else would Napier take that shot as time expired? Can't imagine Calhoun was too happy with the execution.
 
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Really? You guys don't think Shabazz was picturing Pitt the sequel? A swish as the red border of the backboard lit up? That's sure what it looked like to me. There's no reason to start a set with 7 seconds to go from half court. Start at 10 from the 3 point line.

Loved his grit to get us back in the game but his decision-making skills have left something to be desired, especially at the end of games, as evidenced by his fifth foul.

Thrilled we won, despite the rebounding situation. Let's keep it going vs. Cuse.
 
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Shabazz was playing like Kemba for awhile there in the second half. He made an inexplicable play when committing his 5th foul, but Shabazz overall was amazing in the second half!
 

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Just be glad he has the balls to want to take that shot.


Not sure I agree with this. Had they been down one or two, yes that takes balls. The game wasn't 'on the line'. It was tied. Worst case scenario, they have the chance to win it in OT, as they did.

I'd rather he have the balls to drive the lane and make something happen. Settling for a deep three doesn't take balls, regardless of whether you're in the zone.

I'd rather he have the trust in his teammates, as Kemba did with Lamb vs. Louisville last year. Making a play for others counts just as much as making a play for yourself.
 
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Did anyone else see the EPIC JC hand-wave, imploring his ballhandler to go to the basket in the 7-second range? Look at the Kemba-Pitt shot on youtube and notice the low-hand whip from JC as the clock winds down with our ball and the game tied. Then look and see the exact same thing today when replays or clips are available. EXACT SAME. Its a poetic phrase of our program - being in these moments as a team and Calhoun blessing the man with ball and open-fisting whatever Fate has in store. Great stuff.
 

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Why else would Napier take that shot as time expired? Can't imagine Calhoun was too happy with the execution.

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Really? You guys don't think Shabazz was picturing Pitt the sequel? A swish as the red border of the backboard lit up? That's sure what it looked like to me. There's no reason to start a set with 7 seconds to go from half court. Start at 10 from the 3 point line.

Loved his grit to get us back in the game but his decision-making skills have left something to be desired, especially at the end of games, as evidenced by his fifth foul.

Thrilled we won, despite the rebounding situation. Let's keep it going vs. Cuse.

Would have had to hit the (much envied) MSG ceiling as a rainbow jumper because he took the shot with over four seconds on the clock. I think he was putting up a shot with enough time left for the bigs to get an o board and possible putback.
 
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Go away.

calm down...he has the right to voice his opinion and its not a crazy or outlandish one either. Shabazz was huge for us today but still as fans we can still criticize some aspects of his game or decision making as long as its not going after bazz or any player themselves
 

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Would have had to hit the (much envied) MSG ceiling as a rainbow jumper because he took the shot with over four seconds on the clock. I think he was putting up a shot with enough time left for the bigs to get an o board and possible putback.

Never said he executed it properly :)

He released at 3.3 seconds. Ball touched rim at 1.7. I have to imagine that in that scenario you want to give your bigs a little extra time to go get a rebound and put it back up.

Listen, I'm not trying to give Shabazz a hard time. He single-handedly got UConn back in it. But they've got to execute in end-game situations. The success Kemba had last year in these situations is blinding.
 
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We had zero chance in that game without Shabazz, he had an epic second half. Kid is a sophomore and is growing up before our eyes.
 

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this is dumb, if no one wants the ball be glad he had the balls to take the last shot if he can shot... its not kemba envy is called being a leader and stepping up when no one will
 
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this is dumb, if no one wants the ball be glad he had the balls to take the last shot if he can shot... its not kemba envy is called being a leader and stepping up when no one will

Listen at this point I don't know and care too much about what we are arguing about (I'm not even sure if we are arguing) but I'm staring at your gif and I'm thinking why does lamb not take it to the rim that hard more often...I know we are not playing Columbia everyday but that was a nasty dunk he threw down on a seven footer. freaky long arms + good hops (should) = sportcenter top ten at least once a week.
 
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I've said this in other places, but that was the perfect time to shoot. WV had a timeout. You don't want to bring losing into the equation by giving them enough time to get a shot at the other end. At 1.7 seconds at the rim, it was just enough time to get a put back if we happened to be in there, but not enough for them to get the rebound, call timeout, and do anything significant with it other than hope for a Tate-esque miracle. I know Doris was ripping it in real time, but only two things can happen there: we win or we go to overtime. If he drives with 6 or 7 seconds left and WV reaches in for a steal, or blocks a shot and leaks out, or Napier gets called for a travel or something, we could lose in regulation.

Kemba could have taken McGhee earlier, but he didn't - and he never gave the Pitt the ball.
 
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Right play by him to shoot there, the above post is right, he allows for an offensive rebound on a miss or a heave by WVU, that's it. He didn't get a mismatch and he did get fairly squared up to the shot with decent separation. Might have been nice to take a step or two more since he was behind the NBA arc, but he ensures WVU does not get a shot to win in regulation by doing what he did. Not to mention, he was shooting well at the time.
 
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Gurley is right, he misses early and WVU gets to run a play (worst case scenario).

Best case scenario: He shoots late in the clock and misses and its OT, it goes in they win.
 

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Listen at this point I don't know and care too much about what we are arguing about (I'm not even sure if we are arguing) but I'm staring at your gif and I'm thinking why does lamb not take it to the rim that hard more often...I know we are not playing Columbia everyday but that was a nasty dunk he threw down on a seven footer. freaky long arms + good hops (should) = sportcenter top ten at least once a week.
yeah idk why either... dunk of the year
 
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Not sure I agree with this. Had they been down one or two, yes that takes balls. The game wasn't 'on the line'. It was tied. Worst case scenario, they have the chance to win it in OT, as they did.

I'd rather he have the balls to drive the lane and make something happen. Settling for a deep three doesn't take balls, regardless of whether you're in the zone.

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Id much rather he didnt shoot it and they kept passing right to the horn.

Honestly some of you scare me sometimes.
 
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So which was it, Kemba envy or a lack of balls to take it into the lane? I'm confused now.

It could be that someone is just trying to justify a ****ty original post.

first, i was just quoting part of a post that i agreed with which has nothing to do with kemba. i think Bazz should have penetrated and attacked the basket rather than settle for 3 (you'd be in the minority if you didn't feel that way). attack the basket with about 5 seconds left, maybe draw a foul, throw it up on the rim with roughly 2 seconds left and then theres also a chance for a put back. driving not only invites the opporutnity for a possible foul but it also creates a better opportunity for a put-back becasue the bigs have to commit to the drive and are slightly out of position when they need to block out.

and it certainly doesnt take balls. he was hot and he was obviously the person to be taking the last shot, saying he has balls to pull up from there isnt really the best way to describe it. the smarter and high probablity of scoring play would have been to attack the rim, its that simple.
 
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first, i was just quoting part of a post that i agreed with which has nothing to do with kemba. i think Bazz should have penetrated and attacked the basket rather than settle for 3 (you'd be in the minority if you didn't feel that way). attack the basket with about 5 seconds left, maybe draw a foul, throw it up on the rim with roughly 2 seconds left and then theres also a chance for a put back. driving not only invites the opporutnity for a possible foul but it also creates a better opportunity for a put-back becasue the bigs have to commit to the drive and are slightly out of position when they need to block out.

and it certainly doesnt take balls. he was hot and he was obviously the person to be taking the last shot, saying he has balls to pull up from there isnt really the best way to describe it. the smarter and high probablity of scoring play would have been to attack the rim, its that simple.


I think if there was a tournament for "saying what you would do from the comfort of your couch" you would probably have a good shot at the finals, my man.
 
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