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AgStatesman said:
The list of athletes not participating due to Covid is going to be a long one before this is over. The Japanese have done a crap job dealing with the pandemic and quite frankly don't deserve to host the Olympics.
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OK - EXACTLY what would you have done?
And based on that, who does deserve the Olympics?
 
CL82 said:
Is she sick, or did she just test positive? Anyone know?
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That sucks! Really feel bad for Lou..She worked real hard for it and it showed the last couple of games with the Storm..and was fully vaccinated too..what a bummer!
 
Lou is such a hard luck person. Missing 4 NC games for various reasons, being in bad situations in Chicago and Dallas, and now this! My heart aches for her.

But missing the Olympics is manageable. I hope that it’s a very mild case (like Geno had). Asia Durr’s situation is debilitating, and my granddaughter’s doc is telling her she is now an ex-athlete. This is still a very nasty virus.

UConnNation is with you, Lou! Lots of love!
 
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MilfordHusky said:
Lou is such a hard luck person. Missing 4 NC games for various reasons, being in bad situations in Chicago abd Dallas, and now this! My heart aches for her.

But missing the Olympics is manageable. I hope that it’s a very mild case (like Geno had). Asia Durr’s situation is debilitating, and my granddaughter’s doc is telling her she is now an ex-athlete. This is still a very nasty virus.

UConnNation is with you, Lou! Lots of love!
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Sorry to hear about your granddaughter. My youngest grandson just tested positive for the virus. It has changed many lives.
 
Bama fan said:
I have not seen evidence that the polio vaccine was more effective that the Covid vaccines. But I do not remember anyone just choosing not to get the polio vaccines. I am sure there were some but the published data claims 90% effectiveness with two doses and 99% with three. Covid 19 jabs from Moderna or Pfizer are proving 90 % effective with two doses. However, the more people remain unvaccinated, the greater the spread of variant strains.
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While I do not know which vaccine of the two was more effective, I do remember vividly those in my community that suffered polio.
Metal leg braces (ala Forest Gump), crutches, physical deformities made it a very visual, in your face disease- unlike Covid which is invisible (until someone isn’t “around” anymore).
I think the visual aspects of Polio made that vaccine more acceptable, therefore easier to administer.
 
UConnCat said:
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“I’m fully vaccinated and took every precaution“ When I read this news earlier today watching ESPN, I immediately thought of our team (players). If Lou can test positive AFTER being vaccinated and taking every precaution, so can they. Once was enough!! I’m sure that Geno and his team don’t want to ride THAT merry-go-round again.

We’re all looking forward to playing a full and complete schedule with no postponements or cancellations. Classes resume 6 weeks from today. Official practice in about 12.

A lot can happen in the next 12 weeks. Let’s hope no one connected with the program tests positive the entire season.
 
95% effective is actually pretty good for a vaccine but still: if all 11,000 athletes participating in the games are fully vaccinated, then 5% of that is 550. In real life not all of them will be exposed, so the numbers will be smaller than than, but the virulence of the Delta version means a bunch of them will be exposed. The good news is that even breakthrough infections seem mostly (entirely?) mild.
 
Stymie said:
While I do not know which vaccine of the two was more effective, I do remember vividly those in my community that suffered polio.
Metal leg braces (ala Forest Gump), crutches, physical deformities made it a very visual, in your face disease- unlike Covid which is invisible (until someone isn’t “around” anymore).
I think the visual aspects of Polio made that vaccine more acceptable, therefore easier to administer.
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I lived in the Pittsburgh, Pa area as a child, and we were given the Salk vaccine in first grade as part of the early trials The nuns did not ask if you would like to get it, they just lined us up in the hall. I remember hearing about the iron lung, and although I was not sure what it was, I was darn sure it was no fun!
 
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Bama fan said:
I lived in the Pittsburgh, Pa area as a child, and we were given the Salk vaccine in first grade as part of the early trials The nuns did not ask if you would like to get it, they just lined us up in the hall. I remember hearing about the iron lung, and although I was not sure what it was, I was darn sure it was no fun!
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If you lived during that time and saw people in the iron lung, you would have gotten the vaccine. For people who got polio, the iron lung breathed for them. My parents never hesitated having me vaccinated.
 
donalddoowop said:
Sorry to hear about your granddaughter. My youngest grandson just tested positive for the virus. It has changed many lives.
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Best wishes to you and your grandson! My granddaughter played Division III soccer in 2019 and made 1st team All-Conference as a freshman. Last September, the season was postponed. Her roommate's boyfriend had Covid symptoms and didn't tell anyone, so several people were exposed. As a result, 4 players on the women's soccer team contracted Covid. Caitie's situation was the most serious. She lost her sense of taste and smell, though they are now mostly back, 10 months later. She was very fatigued and had chest tightness, but wasn't close to being hospitalized. She had multiple chest X-rays and other tests that did not indicate any serious problem. But her cardio conditioning is very poor. In her nursing classes, her breathing capacity was by far the lowest in the class. The doc now says that Covid induced "latent adolescent asthma" in women aged 15-25 or so. Cait looks in shape, but she wheezes whenever she runs (which was a key asset in soccer). If she can be treated with therapy, an inhaler, etc., she may be able to resume soccer. I'm hoping. The important point is that there are nasty side effects of various types caused by Covid. I hope everyone can avoid the virus and certainly avoid the serious side effects.
 
We also grew up in school with bomb drills where we went into the hallway, knelt down by the lockers, and put our hands around our necks. Looking back now how foolish that was, but that was during the cold war in the 50's.
 
Alydar said:
I'm sitting here thinking I'm sure glad that the Polio vaccines in the 1950's were a lot more effective than these Covid-19 vaccines.
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Actually, the Covid vaccines are just as effective as those for Polio. Almost no one is dying after being vaccinated. There is also no comparison between the two diseases; one maims and the other kills.
 
My guess is KLS is probably asymptomatic & feeling good. Probably a shock to her. This makes it even worse for her!
 
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Bama fan said:
I have not seen evidence that the polio vaccine was more effective that the Covid vaccines. But I do not remember anyone just choosing not to get the polio vaccines. I am sure there were some but the published data claims 90% effectiveness with two doses and 99% with three. Covid 19 jabs from Moderna or Pfizer are proving 90 % effective with two doses. However, the more people remain unvaccinated, the greater the spread of variant strains.
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When the polio vaccine became available, my mom rushed me to the Doc Woodward’s office for shots. Weeks later the line was hundreds of kids long at my junior high as the vaccine was administered to every kid. Of course, Colorado was a polio hot spot. The movie theater removed aisle seats to accommodate wheelchairs. I would visit friends who spent at least the evening in an iron lung, if not 24/7, usually set up in living room as it was too difficult to get the machine into bedrooms in our modest homes. My smallpox vaccine scar has faded with the passage of time. My kid didn’t need one because everyone in my generation did. We beat polio, we beat smallpox. We can beat Covid, yet it more than lingers because so many refuse to do what we did for polio and smallpox.
 
cometjo said:
95% effective is actually pretty good for a vaccine but still: if all 11,000 athletes participating in the games are fully vaccinated, then 5% of that is 550. In real life not all of them will be exposed, so the numbers will be smaller than than, but the virulence of the Delta version means a bunch of them will be exposed. The good news is that even breakthrough infections seem mostly (entirely?) mild.
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Keep in mind it though that “95% effective“ just means that 95% of vaccinated people will not have a debilitating version of the disease. It does not mean that they are incapable of getting it or transmitting it.
 
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The solution is simple. Push Tokyo to 2022, then we start the cycle with games on a new four year schedule, 2026, 2030, etc.
 
Dokey said:
The solution is simple. Push Tokyo to 2022, then we start the cycle with games on a new four year schedule, 2026, 2030, etc.
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Maybe the fairest solution is to let the athletes themselves decide whether to compete or not.
Conduct the competition in closed venues with no spectators-just the athletes, the officials and cameras to memorialize the results.
Sometimes an athlete has a very narrow window of peak performance.
Not fair for me to make the call after their years of sacrifice and preparation.
Let them conduct their own risk assessment.
As for me, I don’t plan on attending a professional sporting event anytime in the near future.
And yes, I’m fully vaccinated.
 
Carnac said:
“I’m fully vaccinated and took every precaution“ When I read this news earlier today watching ESPN, I immediately thought of our team (players). If Lou can test positive AFTER being vaccinated and taking every precaution, so can they. Once was enough!! I’m sure that Geno and his team don’t want to ride THAT merry-go-round again.

We’re all looking forward to playing a full and complete schedule with no postponements or cancellations. Classes resume 6 weeks from today. Official practice in about 12.

A lot can happen in the next 12 weeks. Let’s hope no one connected with the program tests positive the entire season.
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The gist of my concern in this post is no one connected with the program can let their guard down. Remember last year what happened when just one person in the program tested positive? A 14 day quarantine followed, scheduled games were cancelled and life as the team knew it changed day by day.

This Covid pandemic IS NOT over. Continue to take every precaution possible to ensure that no one in the program succumbs to its ravages, and program does not have to walk down THAT path again this season.

The fact that Katie Lou was fully vaccinated, took every precaution and still tested positive is disturbing. This should be a warning to UConn and every other WCBB program in the country.
 
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trisailin said:
OK - EXACTLY what would you have done?
And based on that, who does deserve the Olympics?
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I would have vaccinated the citizens of the Land of the Rising Sun and taken care of them first so they would actually get behind the Olympics.

As far as who "deserves" the Olympics, I am tempted to quote William Money's comment to Little Bill as I tend to do every time I see the word deserve, but this time I will hold back.

Countries who deserve the Olympics in a pandemic ridden world. This list is definitive.

  • Mauritius​

  • Tanzania​

  • New Zealand​

  • Iceland​

  • Singapore​

  • Australia​
  • Canada​
 
baggerbob said:
If you lived during that time and saw people in the iron lung, you would have gotten the vaccine. For people who got polio, the iron lung breathed for them. My parents never hesitated having me vaccinated.
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My recollection is that it was pretty much mandatory.
I was young so not really sure.
But no one complained as we saw the result of Polio.
Went to the High School ( L.I.) when scheduled- administered on a sugar cube on a little piece of paper that a cookie may have been served on.
No fuss-no muss. No conspiracy theories.
Maybe because there was still a belief in science.
Country was involved in a Space Race- trying to get a man on the moon.
Science community was held in high esteem- unlike now (by many).
 
AgStatesman said:
I would have vaccinated the citizens of the Land of the Rising Sun and taken care of them first so they would actually get behind the Olympics.

As far as who "deserves" the Olympics, I am tempted to quote William Money's comment to Little Bill as I tend to do every time I see the word deserve, but this time I will hold back.

Countries who deserve the Olympics in a pandemic ridden world. This list is definitive.


  • Mauritius​


  • Tanzania​


  • New Zealand​


  • Iceland​


  • Singapore​

  • Australia​
  • Canada​
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'I would have vaccinated the citizens of the Land of the Rising Sun'
as the most statistically intelligent and longest lived major nation on planet earth, i'll stick with they know better than you as to what they should do.
'Japan has the lowest rate of heart disease in the OECD, and the lowest level of dementia in the developed world.'
as of today, the nation of 125,000,000, living in a most densely populated and urbanized setting on earth, has a grand total of around 15,000 deaths.
the japanese people did not want these games to take place there.
 
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baggerbob said:
We also grew up in school with bomb drills where we went into the hallway, knelt down by the lockers, and put our hands around our necks. Looking back now how foolish that was, but that was during the cold war in the 50's.
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I remember those drills. Those tactics were foolish, but they had to do something. None of the schools I attended had a bomb shelter large enough to accommodate the entire school. So getting under your desk, putting your head down and your hands behind your neck was the best they could do. Those tactics would at least protect us from flying glass from the windows that would more than likely shatter from a near bomb blast, and from falling debris. :confused:
 
Carnac said:
I remember those drills. Those tactics were foolish, but they had to do something. None of the schools I attended had a bomb shelter large enough to accommodate the entire school. So getting under your desk, putting your head down and your hands behind your neck was the best they could do. Those tactics would at least protect us from flying glass from the windows that would more than likely shatter from a near bomb blast, and from falling debris. :confused:
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That flying glass would barely precede the blast inferno which would kill all those kiddies.
 
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