Kara Wolters

[hoophuskee]

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She should be, shouldn't she? What about A

have to disagree here. My daughter guarded the center of other teams because she was the tallest and more willing to bang down low compared to the others on her college team. But she was def a power forward. she was also guarded by the other teams best defender and they def weren’t all centers

Who guards her is not relevant. But it matters who she guards- it reflects to the style she is playing in that specific game. It's about how "she" is playing in that game- . We are talking about our team not theirs. And just like in this case if there is a consistency vs another team's position- such as Stewart usually guarded the tallest inside player in 2015-2016 - then she is a center for that game. Otherwise, who else is the starting center if not Stewart? If And if she has to guard the best teams tallest player-- she is playing center. Who is the center then? And what makes you say she is power forward than a center? Because she is going to take more outside shots than a big center?

There are 5 positions on the floor, center, pf, sf, sg and pg. You are making up your own positions if you cant account for a player at each position.

**Tell me why a player who guards the center for most of the time she is in, and scores like a center inside just as much inside as any other player, why would she be disqualified as playing center? IMO you just can't arbitrarily say "there is no center starting the game" because you've made up a personal pov that a team can play without a center.

There has to be a starting center each game. There has to be a power forward each game etc. **And when she (Stewie) is defending the other team's low post player and she is scoring inside just as much as anyone else she is playing the game like a center. That's a center.

When we talk about projected lineups for our team-- can't we use terminology like "I think she can play the 5?" Well if a player is playing the 5, what does that mean? It means she is playing center, right?

 

[DEpup]

What does this have to do with UCONN?

Tina Charles = UConn

 

[Geew1992]

She should be, shouldn't she? What about A


Who guards her is not relevant. But it matters who she guards- it reflects to the style she is playing in that specific game. It's about how "she" is playing in that game- . We are talking about our team not theirs. And just like in this case if there is a consistency vs another team's position- such as Stewart usually guarded the tallest inside player in 2015-2016 - then she is a center for that game. Otherwise, who else is the starting center if not Stewart? If And if she has to guard the best teams tallest player-- she is playing center. Who is the center then? And what makes you say she is power forward than a center? Because she is going to take more outside shots than a big center?

There are 5 positions on the floor, center, pf, sf, sg and pg. You are making up your own positions if you cant account for a player at each position.

**Tell me why a player who guards the center for most of the time she is in, and plays just as much inside as any other player, why would she be disqualified as playing center? IMO you just can't arbitrarily say "there is no center starting the game" because you've made up a personal pov that a team can play without a center.

There has to be a starting center each game. There has to be a power forward each game etc. **And when she (Stewie) is defending the other team's low post player and she is scoring inside just as much as anyone else she is playing the game like a center. That's a center.

When we talk about projected lineups for our team-- can't we use terminology like "I think she can play the 5?" Well if a player is playing the 5, what does that mean? It means she is playing center, right?
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Uconn plays does not play by position. And nope, just cuz someone guards that position doesn’t not make them a player of it. Ask Gabby. Stewie wasn’t a center, then or now.

 

[hoophuskee]

Tina Charles = UConn

But you gave examples of non-UCONN.

 

[hoophuskee]

[/QUOTE]

Uconn plays does not play by position. And nope, just cuz someone guards that position doesn’t not make them a player of it. Ask Gabby. Stewie wasn’t a center, then or now.
[/QUOTE]

UCONN does play positions. Otherwise you are saying Liv is not the center? MoJeff and Sue Bird and Danger were not the team's pg?
While teams play the positions differently, there remains 5 positions on the court. You seem to have no problem identifying your daughter at a position too.

Gabby was the center in certain games because in basketball there are 5 positions- center, pf, sf, sf and pg. You are making up your own definition if you don't believe this.

**Tell me why a player who guards the center for most of the time she is in, and plays just as much inside as any other player, why would she be disqualified as playing center? Because you say so? If it walks like a duck . . .

 

[DEpup]

But you gave examples of non-UCONN.

Once UConn always UConn. What I am trying to say for the 100th time, at UConn just because she was the tallest player on the court doesn't mean she was a center. She was a PF with Maya as the SF and they had no center.

Back to the topic at hand, in the 1990s and early 2000s, I'd go with Kara since everyone played a game similar to present day Baylor.

Today, I wouldn't really start a center, I'd start 2 PFs so give me Tina and Stewie. I'd like to have a Kara type on the bench as 6th woman for the few Baylor type games.

 

[UConnCat]

Some of the stuff posted in this thread is crazy.

Tina Charles played center while at UConn. Geno referred to Tina as a Center. The roster listed her as a Center for her 4 years at UConn. A couple of 6-3+ players at UConn were listed as Center/Forward (eg Brit Hunter, Heather Buck), but not Tina. She was listed as Center every year.

Maya Moore played the PF while at UConn. She played the Wing/Small Forward as a pro but not at UConn. Same with Collier.

 

[hoophuskee]

Once UConn always UConn. What I am trying to say for the 100th time, at UConn just because she was the tallest player on the court doesn't mean she was a center. She was a PF with Maya as the SF and they had no center.

Back to the topic at hand, in the 1990s and early 2000s, I'd go with Kara since everyone played a game similar to present day Baylor.

Today, I wouldn't really start a center, I'd start 2 PFs so give me Tina and Stewie. I'd like to have a Kara type on the bench as 6th woman for the few Baylor type games.

There is nothing I agree with you on here though Tina and Stewie would be great. I'd prefer the following fantasy 12 player college lineup because I'm only talking college (not pros) and I want to push pace. And to push pace I'm also looking for a slasher.

Center: Stewart. ((As showed she played the center (and pf) great in her sr year)). Overall nobody was better than her at end of frosh year through her sr year whether it be PF or C.
Power forward: Maya Moore (she played power forward over 3/4's of her career at UCONN)
Small Forward: Nykesha Sales (I need a slasher, a ball handler, a shooter, a scorer and someone tough. She fits the bill as to how a sf plays and I need her to play. There is a better sg than her so move her to sf.).
Shooting guard: DT (she played both pg, and sg and arguably played sf too).
Point guard-- Sue Bird and Mo Jeff to keep pace of play.

Lobo is a center and power forward. She is better than Nykesha but in college I want to play Maya Moore at her most effective position she played in college which was Power Forward. As a power forward - the slower bigs cannot guard her. If the opposing team goes small then they play into UCONN's style of wanting to play fastbreak hoop. So Lobo is 1st off the bench in the frontcourt.
Then have four other bench players, Tina, Bascom, Jen and Sveta. Unsure about the 12th player.

But this team is setup to run. The Baylor Bigs cannot guard Maya at the PF the same way no big ever could guard her. Stanford had "some" success but they had quick bigs like Ogwumike. And even if Maya is out and UCONN has Lobo and Tina at center-- who would take Baylor's Cox and Brown over them?

And another point- centers don't have to be big and slow. And centers don't have to score all their baskets inside. And we already did see Tina wipe out Griner-- though true Griner was a frosh but Tina pounded her like the center she was at UCONN.

 

[chrissaran]

What you just said imo is a ridiculous statement. You're making up your own positions. When you guard another center for most of the game when you are in and when you also inside posting just as much as any other player-- you are playing center.

She did not guard the other team's center most of the game, not even half the game. Yes, UConn is great at switching on defense, hence Breanna guarding the other team's center.

 

[BostonBay]

Not sure where this Stewart is a Center nonsense is coming from. No one, herself, Geno, her teammates, would label her as such. Of course, she could literally play/dominate all 5 positions because of her quickness, size & wingspan. But, she played most of her time on the wing facing the basket, versus in the paint with her back to the basket. Yes, she could post up to create a mismatch if she wanted to, but that was a minority of the time, Yes, she could rebound because she was always attaching the basket. But, a true center, spends most of the time in the paint posting up with her back to the basket. Also, UConn often played with 2G - 3F sets, with no center the way its traditionally viewed. If I had to label Stewart, it would the 4 or Power Forward.

 

[hoophuskee]

She did not guard the other team's center most of the game, not even half the game. Yes, UConn is great at switching on defense, hence Breanna guarding the other team's center.

Switching on defense to define the position of the player? No.

As I have said look at the games in the NCAA in 15-16 between Miss State, Texas and Oregon State. Before any switches are done after UCONN scored on offense, Stewart is defending the center as the opposing team is bringing up the ball. She starts off defending the opposing center. That means she is playing defensively as the team's center vs the opposing center. **At around the 6.5 minute mark 1st quarter vs Miss State even when UCONN went zone- Stewart is in the middle of the zone too. These are roles defined by centers.

Every made basket UCONN had in 1st quarter she guarded the opposing team's starting center. She only played 25 minutes and she started by guarding the opposing team's center. So you're trying to suggest she isn't the center because she helped out? All defenses have some form of help. If you are "helping" it means you are also "switching" if a play continues for more than several seconds. So yeah she helped out. She got 5 blocks. Generally centers usually have the most blocked shot OfC not all the time. And some centers can only rarely block shots but if your center is helping - they do. This is what Stewart was doing in this NCAA game vs Miss State. ). Most if not all the blocks would have been on the inside. Similar to a center helping defend the paint.

So you're saying because she helps out - she isn't a center???? Further, as an example, teams used to put Shaquille O'Neal in switches such as a pick-n-roll. So when he was guarding the guard that put him in the pick-n-roll, your definition would be that he's not really the center because he switched?

Anyhow when the score was 40-8 - after a made basket when UCONN was able to set their defense- they chose to have Stewart guard the opposing center or she was in the middle of a 2-3 zone. That's a center for that particular game.

 

[chrissaran]

Switching on defense to define the position of the player? No.

As I have said look at the games in the NCAA in 15-16 between Miss State, Texas and Oregon State. Before any switches are done after UCONN scored on offense, Stewart is defending the center as the opposing team is bringing up the ball. She starts off defending the opposing center. That means she is playing defensively as the team's center vs the opposing center. **At around the 6.5 minute mark 1st quarter vs Miss State even when UCONN went zone- Stewart is in the middle of the zone too. These are roles defined by centers.

Every made basket UCONN had in 1st quarter she guarded the opposing team's starting center. She only played 25 minutes and she started by guarding the opposing team's center. So you're trying to suggest she isn't the center because she helped out? All defenses have some form of help. If you are "helping" it means you are also "switching" if a play continues for more than several seconds. So yeah she helped out. She got 5 blocks. Generally centers usually have the most blocked shot OfC not all the time. And some centers can only rarely block shots but if your center is helping - they do. This is what Stewart was doing in this NCAA game vs Miss State. ). Most if not all the blocks would have been on the inside. Similar to a center helping defend the paint.

So you're saying because she helps out - she isn't a center???? Further, as an example, teams used to put Shaquille O'Neal in switches such as a pick-n-roll. So when he was guarding the guard that put him in the pick-n-roll, your definition would be that he's not really the center because he switched?

Anyhow when the score was 40-8 - after a made basket when UCONN was able to set their defense- they chose to have Stewart guard the opposing center or she was in the middle of a 2-3 zone. That's a center for that particular game.

You're wasting your breath. Morgan played center because Breanna wasn't strong enough to play center. Did you ever see Breanna guard Natalie Achonwa? No. Did you ever see her guard Alaina Coates? No.

 

[hoophuskee]

You're wasting your breath. Morgan played center because Breanna wasn't strong enough to play center. Did you ever see Breanna guard Natalie Achonwa? No. Did you ever see her guard Alaina Coates? No.

So because Stewie didn't guard Natalie Achonwa, regardless of the centers she guarded for example vs Miss. State,, because you say-so- the other centers, don't count as centers?

2015-16 Women's Basketball Roster - Mississippi State

The official 2015-16 Women's Basketball Roster for the Mississippi State Bulldogs

hailstate.com

 

[chrissaran]

So because Stewie didn't guard Natalie Achonwa, regardless of the centers she guarded for example vs Miss. State,, because you say-so- the other centers, don't count as centers?

2015-16 Women's Basketball Roster - Mississippi State

The official 2015-16 Women's Basketball Roster for the Mississippi State Bulldogs

hailstate.com

She guarded Teaira McCowan? You're kidding, right? One-on-one the entire game? No.

 

[FairView]

Well Tina does have a city named for her in South Carolina (Charleston) as well as a dance so there is that too..

A river, too.

 

[chrissaran]

hoophuskee, do me a favor. Email Geno and ask him if Morgan, Kiah, and Natalie played center or Breanna.

 

[bluedevil]

There is nothing I agree with you on here though Tina and Stewie would be great. I'd prefer the following fantasy 12 player college lineup because I'm only talking college (not pros) and I want to push pace. And to push pace I'm also looking for a slasher.

Center: Stewart. ((As showed she played the center (and pf) great in her sr year)). Overall nobody was better than her at end of frosh year through her sr year whether it be PF or C.
Power forward: Maya Moore (she played power forward over 3/4's of her career at UCONN)
Small Forward: Nykesha Sales (I need a slasher, a ball handler, a shooter, a scorer and someone tough. She fits the bill as to how a sf plays and I need her to play. There is a better sg than her so move her to sf.).
Shooting guard: DT (she played both pg, and sg and arguably played sf too).
Point guard-- Sue Bird and Mo Jeff to keep pace of play.

Lobo is a center and power forward. She is better than Nykesha but in college I want to play Maya Moore at her most effective position she played in college which was Power Forward. As a power forward - the slower bigs cannot guard her. If the opposing team goes small then they play into UCONN's style of wanting to play fastbreak hoop. So Lobo is 1st off the bench in the frontcourt.
Then have four other bench players, Tina, Bascom, Jen and Sveta. Unsure about the 12th player.

But this team is setup to run. The Baylor Bigs cannot guard Maya at the PF the same way no big ever could guard her. Stanford had "some" success but they had quick bigs like Ogwumike. And even if Maya is out and UCONN has Lobo and Tina at center-- who would take Baylor's Cox and Brown over them?

And another point- centers don't have to be big and slow. And centers don't have to score all their baskets inside. And we already did see Tina wipe out Griner-- though true Griner was a frosh but Tina pounded her like the center she was at UCONN.

12..Big game Bria...

 

[chrissaran]

12..Big game Bria...

Too afraid to ask Geno I see.

 

[chrissaran]

hoophuskee, go back and look at the rosters for the UConn women. Breanna is listed as a forward.

 

[hoophuskee]

She guarded Teaira McCowan? You're kidding, right? One-on-one the entire game? No.

Well how could have Stewart have defended her the whole game when the score was 98-38? She only played 25 minutes because she was so dominant. In 25 minutes she had 22 points on 8-10 shooting, 14 rebounds, and 5 blocks. The point is -- during Stewart's 25 minutes- anytime on defense she defended the opposing team's centers or she was in the middle-of the 2-3 zone. She rarely left the paint on defense because she was guarding the centers.

So no- Stewart did not guard her one-on-one because Stewart dominated her and the other center so badly. . But Miss State had 2 centers-- and Stewart either guarded both man-to-man or UCONN played a 2-3 zone in which Stewart as in the middle man-to-man. And after every miss/ turnover on the offensive end, or out of bounds, Stewart would guard McCowan or Okorie man-to-man. And when UCONN went zone, it's Stewart in the middle-of-the-zone. That's typically for centers.

So as I've said you can see the game yourself. Go on that site called huskygames.com.

Incidentally, McCowan had a pretty good game statistically. She had 10 points shooting 5-6 from the floor. But--- she scored 8 of her points when Stewart was sitting. You know who was the center that was in for UCONN as McCowan scored 8 of her 10 points? It was Nat Butler. The supposed only "true center" on the team.

And the 2 points McCowan scored vs Stewart? Was it a power-post move? Nope. Was it an offensive rebound where she just out-muscled Stewart? Nope.
It was a player got in the lane through penetration in which Stewart went to block the shot and the penetrator either passed or fumbled the ball that came right to McCowan for a layup.

 

[hoophuskee]

hoophuskee, go back and look at the rosters for the UConn women. Breanna is listed as a forward.

Yeah but we can't go by that, can we? See the link below. They have Liv listed as a forward.

Women's Basketball Roster - University of Connecticut Athletics

The official Women's Basketball Roster for the University of Connecticut Huskies

uconnhuskies.com

 

[chrissaran]

You just won't admit that you are wrong. I never said Breanna never guarded the other team's center. I said that Morgan, Kiah and Natalie were the centers for UConn. Learn to read.

 

[NEforceUConn]

ADD med check time. I thought the OP topic was Kara Wolters.

 

[chrissaran]

The topic was Kara Wolters. Then, it became about UConn centers. Breanna Stewart was never UConn's center. Morgan, Kiah and Natalie were the centers. Was Gabby not a center because she was 5'11"? Of course she was because the large majority of the time she guarded the other team's center.

 

[hoophuskee]

You just won't admit that you are wrong. I never said Breanna never guarded the other team's center. I said that Morgan, Kiah and Natalie were the centers for UConn. Learn to read.

I'm right. You're just dug in and keep making things up and hoping that it sticks.

1-- First you bring up Kia Stokes who already graduated.
2-- ^Then you make a bizarre statement about switching defenses as if that had a thing to do with if she was playing center. Using thta whacked logic then one coudl say Shaq wasn't a center often because he switched often on pick and rolls.
3-- Then you talk about an ND player as if there is only one center to ever play.
4-- Then you make up a bizarre statement about Stewart not defending McCowan for a hwole game even though you knew or should've known that he score was 90-38 so it was impossible for Stewart to guard her the whole game.
5-- Then you try to use some lame comment like "check the site" despite the fact you know that they have Liv listed as a power forward.
6-- Then you make up other names whom Stewart didn't guard again ignoring that she DID guard McCaowna and NOT Tuck while Stewart was in the game. And conveniently ignoring the centers she did guard.

The fact is-- Stewart played center and she played power forward. There is game tape to show that from Miss State, Texas, and Oregon State in 2015-2016. .

 

[DaddyChoc]

tallest player on the court with 4 other teammates is considered the CENTER

 

[JonathanXIV]

Guys. This “who is the center” debate was old 6 days ago. Move on. Please.

 

[DaddyChoc]

Guys. This “who is the center” debate was old 6 days ago. Move on. Please.

thanks HuskyNan

 

[JonathanXIV]

thanks HuskyNan

If only.

 

[JordyG]

A center. A forward. A center. A forward. Let's call the whole thing off.