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Message: [QUOTE="JoePgh, post: 3097610, member: 1131"] To repeat, "initiating contact" is not the rulebook criterion for determining who has committed a foul. As previously illustrated, if one player (either offensive or defensive) initiates contact with another player's extended arms or legs, it is a foul on other player, because that other player does not have a right to be in the space occupied by her extended arms or legs. Even if that player is as still as a statue, if her arms are extended beyond the vertical and contact occurs (never mind who initiated it), she has committed a foul. [/QUOTE]