Kansas reportedly subpoenaed

[gtcam]

With Carolina walking free despite unbelievable findings, there is nothing that Kansas could have done that would cause any harm
However, let a non P5 school try anything that hints of any irregularities and they will be punished "as an example" of what could happen to others
BTW - a lot of these subpoenas are just to ask questions of what they heard about other schools recruitment practices.
The NCAA is complete BS

 

[champs99and04]

With absolutely zero supporting facts, KU, KU representatives, or Jayhawks' supporters allegedly may have paid some recruits. On the other hand, have you read anything recently about 1) KU being accused of an escort scandal or 2) anything similar to Pitino setting the table for his firing with recruiting escorts? Bill Self certainly may have some other recruiting concerns, but some differences with Pitino's 1, 2 or nth strikes and your out situation may also exist.

Hence the part in parenthesis. The ESPN article that came out today says Pitino is not named in the federal complaint. The escort situation is a separate matter that is obviously serious but still wasn't enough to get him fired. I have no idea how Louisville is going to justify that in court, which is my point. They fired him for something that we now know doesn't get other coaches fired.

 

[ZenConn]

Yeah but...

LOL. It's not news because they cheat regularly.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

Hence the part in parenthesis. The ESPN article that came out today says Pitino is not named in the federal complaint. The escort situation is a separate matter that is obviously serious but still wasn't enough to get him fired.

Dating back to 2017, I don't recall media reports ever indicated the initial and ongoing FBI subpoenas ever directly implicated Pitino. Hence, today's related ESPN article only repeat prior reported information.

Before the FBI's broadly reported recruiting bribery investigation minimally involving one of Pitino's assistant coaches and his Louisville program, the Louisville recruiting escort scandal was just one of a series of incidents involving Pitino and his Louisville program.

• While acknowledging the opinion stated in your "Parenthesis" <sic>: [(the escort scandal is separate from what got him fired), the escorts in Pitino's managed program prompted NCAA penalties including vacating Louisville's 2013 championship.
  
• Previously, Pitino acknowledged he got the wife of a Louisville athletic department employee pregnant and paid for her abortion.

Perhaps you view Louisville's escort recruiting scandal and 2015(?) NCAA penalties as entirely separate considerations and absolutely unrelated to Pitino's subsequent Sept 2017 suspension and firing. Maybe you think a series of prior controversial events and NCAA penalties under Pitino's leadership in no way, shape or form contributed to his 2017 firing due to FBI bribery investigation and NCAA compliance considerations. Perhaps you'll also contend some "biased third parties" infringed upon Pitino's Constitutional rights.

On the above topics, we'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree. Out.

 

[champs99and04]

I recognize that the pattern is what led to the firing. But since when does a person's track record negate their right to due process? You realize how problematic that is? Practically, yeah, if somebody is accused of something who has already been accused of two other things, people are going to be more likely to believe they did it. There is a reason more evidence than that is required to terminate a contract and there is a reason it is dangerous to set a precedent that empowers people who have something to gain from blindly assigning guilt.

We can agree to disagree, but I'd be curious to hear your perspective on the APR mess. Seems to me the equation is the same. It was UConn and Calhoun so everyone assumed that they did something wrong, even though they didn't. The entire model is predicated on weaponizing our own biases and rooting interests against us. Pitino may well be an but the school knew that at the time and they backed him anyway. It wasn't until revenue was threatened that they even considered moving on.

 

[dennismenace]

Hence the part in parenthesis. The ESPN article that came out today says Pitino is not named in the federal complaint. The escort situation is a separate matter that is obviously serious but still wasn't enough to get him fired. I have no idea how Louisville is going to justify that in court, which is my point. They fired him for something that we now know doesn't get other coaches fired.

Isn't the criteria for the legality of discharge determined by his employment contract? What other coaches may or may not get fired for doesn't seem to be relevant since he has a personal employment contract and is not "part of a collective bargaining agreement with other college coaches." Correct?

 

[UConnDad]

With Carolina walking free despite unbelievable findings, there is nothing that Kansas could have done that would cause any harm
However, let a non P5 school try anything that hints of any irregularities and they will be punished "as an example" of what could happen to others
BTW - a lot of these subpoenas are just to ask questions of what they heard about other schools recruitment practices.
The NCAA is complete BS

If it's only for hearsay why get a subpoena. I also thought a judge only issue a subpoena with some justification.