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Johnson out tomorrow

Icehawk said:
At this point I doubt we will see him play much, if at all, this season. We are deep into the meat and he hasn’t been able to practice in two months.
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Who said he hasn’t practiced?
 
Barely:

Following Tuesday’s practice, Hurley provided an update on forward Samson Johnson’s right foot injury.
"He's doing better," Hurley said. "He's actually done some non-live drills. We just have to see how his foot progresses. But he's doing some shooting, moving around a little bit. We'll just see how the foot reacts."

So I don’t see his conditioning being there at the very least.
 
Icehawk said:
Barely:

Following Tuesday’s practice, Hurley provided an update on forward Samson Johnson’s right foot injury.
"He's doing better," Hurley said. "He's actually done some non-live drills. We just have to see how his foot progresses. But he's doing some shooting, moving around a little bit. We'll just see how the foot reacts."

So I don’t see his conditioning being there at the very least.
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A lot of season left
 
Icehawk said:
At this point I doubt we will see him play much, if at all, this season. We are deep into the meat and he hasn’t been able to practice in two months.
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Since we're already 9 deep, I wouldn't imagine he's coming into 20-30 minutes a night anyway. Once he's healthy, he can work in a few minutes a night and build up his conditioning from there. Giving Karaban a rest here and there will be a huge help even if he isn't ready for big minutes.
 
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Rico444 said:
Since we're already 9 deep, I wouldn't imagine he's coming into 20-30 minutes a night anyway. Once he's healthy, he can work in a few minutes a night and build up his conditioning from there. Giving Karaban a rest here and there will be a huge help even if he isn't ready for big minutes.
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Don't underestimate how important the rest for Karaban will be. I already think he has shown some effects of the minutes he has been playing
 
Rico444 said:
Since we're already 9 deep, I wouldn't imagine he's coming into 20-30 minutes a night anyway. Once he's healthy, he can work in a few minutes a night and build up his conditioning from there. Giving Karaban a rest here and there will be a huge help even if he isn't ready for big minutes.
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To quote this morning's Courant, "[Johnson] has participated in non-live drills and taken shots, while moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts."

May I respectfully suggest that "moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts" is light-years away from contributing in any meaningful way in BE basketball competition. The idea that Samson Johnson, barely into rehab, is a better near-term option than a robustly-healthy Richie Springs remains, as my Trappist uncle used to say, "one of the great mysteries of the Church."
 
Edward Sargent said:
Don't underestimate how important the rest for Karaban will be. I already think he has shown some effects of the minutes he has been playing
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This is pretty much the only reason to get him back into the rotation at this point (and deal with a few of the beefier PFs we'll face). Spelling Karaban for 5-10 min a night and with some well timed switches could work the subs around some TV timeouts and get him more like 10-20 min of actual rest time. Just look what it does for Sanogo, he has rarely if ever looked gassed this season because of how Clingan is being used
 
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Johnson. Samson Johnson. Not seein' him.
 
Sphinx said:
To quote this morning's Courant, "[Johnson] has participated in non-live drills and taken shots, while moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts."

May I respectfully suggest that "moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts" is light-years away from contributing in any meaningful way in BE basketball competition. The idea that Samson Johnson, barely into rehab, is a better near-term option than a robustly-healthy Richie Springs remains, as my Trappist uncle used to say, "one of the great mysteries of the Church."
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The problem with feet is they are also one of those injuries that can be a chronic issue. The foot is a rugged, yet finely tuned engineering marvel. Once it breaks, it requires to heal. Otherwise you’re shifting the problem somewhere else… other foot mechanics, ankle, knee, hip.
 
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huskiesNhoos said:
This is pretty much the only reason to get him back into the rotation at this point (and deal with a few of the beefier PFs we'll face).
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What body of work do we have on Samson to indicate he can guard and stop beefier power forwards? Maybe thats the time for Adama/Donovan to be on the court together.
 
Rico444 said:
Since we're already 9 deep, I wouldn't imagine he's coming into 20-30 minutes a night anyway. Once he's healthy, he can work in a few minutes a night and build up his conditioning from there. Giving Karaban a rest here and there will be a huge help even if he isn't ready for big minutes.
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I agree with both of these takes.

I don't think we're going to get much from him this year (frankly, I didn't think we'd get much from him before he got hurt), but the emergence of Karaban means we just need Johnson for 5-10 mpg of average, don't-hurt-us minutes to provide a lift.
 
He'll have missed 2/3 of season before he's back. Get him a medical redshirt. We'll need him more the next 2 years.
 
UCTitleTown said:
He'll have missed 2/3 of season before he's back. Get him a medical redshirt. We'll need him more the next 2 years.
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If his sights are on the NBA/leaving early at some point and we don't anticipate him being a full 4 year guy (5 on campus), then an extra year of eligibility is irrelevant and might as well play him this year to get him more seasoning for next year.
 
auror said:
If his sights are on the NBA/leaving early at some point and we don't anticipate him being a full 4 year guy (5 on campus), then an extra year of eligibility is irrelevant and might as well play him this year to get him more seasoning for next year.
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We've seen next to nothing of him. He's far from being an NBA player.
 
auror said:
If his sights are on the NBA/leaving early at some point and we don't anticipate him being a full 4 year guy (5 on campus), then an extra year of eligibility is irrelevant and might as well play him this year to get him more seasoning for next year.
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Huh? Lol
 
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UCTitleTown said:
He'll have missed 2/3 of season before he's back. Get him a medical redshirt. We'll need him more the next 2 years.
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auror said:
If his sights are on the NBA/leaving early at some point and we don't anticipate him being a full 4 year guy (5 on campus), then an extra year of eligibility is irrelevant and might as well play him this year to get him more seasoning for next year.
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Both of these statements can be true. He's probably closer on the spectrum to a medical redshirt than playing 15 games averaging 20 mins a night this season.

Both possibilities are probably on the table and will depend on how his foot reacts.
 
Icehawk said:
At this point I doubt we will see him play much, if at all, this season. We are deep into the meat and he hasn’t been able to practice in two months.
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Been saying this all along. Very skeptical on seeing him being able to get “a decent amount quality minutes”. Hope he can come around though with his ability to play, someone mentioned awhile back that he has a lot of NBA upside.

Was trying to explain this to HooperScooper earlier; thread #170……

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Remember, Johnson is almost back

I give up. "We hope to see Samson back on December 28th" Why is he so cryptic about injury timelines? It's totally unacceptable to have this level of ambiguity surrounding our athletes. Classic 'Yard.
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Sphinx said:
To quote this morning's Courant, "[Johnson] has participated in non-live drills and taken shots, while moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts."

May I respectfully suggest that "moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts" is light-years away from contributing in any meaningful way in BE basketball competition. The idea that Samson Johnson, barely into rehab, is a better near-term option than a robustly-healthy Richie Springs remains, as my Trappist uncle used to say, "one of the great mysteries of the Church."
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Respectfully, you have absolutely no idea how close he is to contributing based on that little blurb.
 
Sphinx said:
To quote this morning's Courant, "[Johnson] has participated in non-live drills and taken shots, while moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts."

May I respectfully suggest that "moving around a bit to see how the foot reacts" is light-years away from contributing in any meaningful way in BE basketball competition. The idea that Samson Johnson, barely into rehab, is a better near-term option than a robustly-healthy Richie Springs remains, as my Trappist uncle used to say, "one of the great mysteries of the Church."
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Icehawk said:
Barely:

Following Tuesday’s practice, Hurley provided an update on forward Samson Johnson’s right foot injury.
"He's doing better," Hurley said. "He's actually done some non-live drills. We just have to see how his foot progresses. But he's doing some shooting, moving around a little bit. We'll just see how the foot reacts."

So I don’t see his conditioning being there at the very least.
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He’s basically on Justin Moore’s timeline, but with a less severe injury. Even if Samson comes back in early February (which would be worst case scenario), that still gives him a month and a half before the NCAAT. We will need every piece we can get by then.
 
He’s literally plug and play for one of the few but biggest weaknesses this team has, yet ppl want to hold him out whenever he’s ready because they know more than the coaches
 
Drame said:
We've seen next to nothing of him. He's far from being an NBA player.
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What you've seen is irrelevant for his NBA chances, sorry. He's not growing any shorter, losing any inches on his wingspan, or losing anything on his vertical leap (assuming he fully heals). Hurley famously said he has wall (lottery) potential. We think Karaban is pretty good, and Samson was playing better than him in the secret scrimmages (and seemingly a little worse in practice when Karaban was fully healthy).

If he shows the ability to shoot consistently at 6'10 and block shots with his 7'5" wingspan, he's going to get NBA interest, even if he's still pretty raw elsewhere. And if he has NBA interest, he'll probably leave to go play pro somewhere, whether or not that's NBA is TBD. Probably won't be after this year considering the injury, but very well could be after next once he fills out more and learns the game a bit more from Hurley and practicing against Sanogo/Karaban/Clingan. Reports are that he worked very hard this offseason, so we'd expect further improvement next year. It's extremely unlikely he'd stick around for 2 additional years after next year without going pro in some capacity.

Further, it seems unlikely that a top 60 recruit will be fine being a career backup (playing behind Karaban/Clingan and possibly Stewart for forseeable future years) in the transfer portal era, so it seems unlikely he'd stick around either way, so then his 5th year eligibility would be extremely moot and the team would be much more served by having him play this year as opposed to redshirting.
 
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