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John Brannen post game Uconn 2/9/20

Why would you like a flagrant foul? It's one thing to be aggressive and to not back down, but to say something like that ..... I would expect that kind of rhetoric from a classless poster.


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Why would you like a flagrant foul? It's one thing to be aggressive and to not back down, but to say something like that ..... I would expect that kind of rhetoric from a classless poster.

Huh? It's not like he committed a criminal offense, or hurt the other guy. Fouls aren't crimes against morality -- they are violations of the rules that bring defined consequences. Why did people like it:

1. The foul shots were missed so it cost us no more than a common foul would have. Coaches often take T's for effect. You judge it based on whether it helps or hurts his team -- not because it was a rules violation.

2. Cincy had physically manhandled us five weeks earlier. The foul was part of showing we were not afraid of getting into wrestling matches with them (which was showed in many other ways).

3. It apparently gave their big something to think about, as from that moment on his only impact was when Whalley came in, but he became much more tentative playing against Carlton.
 
Huh? It's not like he committed a criminal offense, or hurt the other guy. Fouls aren't crimes against morality -- they are violations of the rules that bring defined consequences. Why did people like it:

1. The foul shots were missed so it cost us no more than a common foul would have. Coaches often take T's for effect. You judge it based on whether it helps or hurts his team -- not because it was a rules violation.

2. Cincy had physically manhandled us five weeks earlier. The foul was part of showing we were not afraid of getting into wrestling matches with them (which was showed in many other ways).

3. It apparently gave their big something to think about, as from that moment on his only impact was when Whalley came in, but he became much more tentative playing against Carlton.
businesslawyer im with you. as much as it looked dirty and whatever it gave vogt a second thought about boxing carlton out. sometimes you gotta play rough to send a message
 
Good point about playing Whicita and UConn bac to back on the road. The AAC is loaded with long travel road trips. One of the things that makes it such a difficult conference. It definitely helped us in this game.
 
Huh? It's not like he committed a criminal offense, or hurt the other guy. Fouls aren't crimes against morality -- they are violations of the rules that bring defined consequences. Why did people like it:

1. The foul shots were missed so it cost us no more than a common foul would have. Coaches often take T's for effect. You judge it based on whether it helps or hurts his team -- not because it was a rules violation.

2. Cincy had physically manhandled us five weeks earlier. The foul was part of showing we were not afraid of getting into wrestling matches with them (which was showed in many other ways).

3. It apparently gave their big something to think about, as from that moment on his only impact was when Whalley came in, but he became much more tentative playing against Carlton.

That play/foul was a huge potential turning point in the game that thankfully broke our way about as good as possible.

Depending on how on how far out you extend the potential effects, the foul had the ability to result in up to a 8-point swing Cincy's way:

--Took away a potentially easier scoring opportunity for us...CV had grabbed the rebound before Carlton-Vogt got tied up and we had numbers conducive for a quality transition 2 or 3 pt shot... -2 to -3 pts
--Then gave them chance for 2pts on the FT line... up to +2 pts (they got none)
--Then gave them the ball for an additional possession where they could spend extra time prepping/planning for it during all the time spent reviewing the foul... up to +3 pts

Luckily, the only thing that happened was Adams-Woods sinking a 3pt shot on their extra possession.

When they were showing the replay, it seemed to me that Josh had more than ample opportunity to not continue with the hook and takedown...I was really concerned that they were actually going to call a Flagrant 2 and also eject him.
 
In an "unusual" decision :rolleyes: the NCAA granted immediate eligibility to Vogt when he followed his coach from Northern Kentucky to Cincy. Must have been family illness, or hardship of some sort, right?
Interesting thing is NF is not that fat from Cincinnati. Guess he was eligible because his coach left. LOL
 

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