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Joe Moorhead?

Joe Moorhead?

  • 4yrs $10mm

    Votes: 19 17.8%
  • 4yrs $11mm

    Votes: 8 7.5%
  • 4yrs $11.5mm

    Votes: 13 12.1%
  • 5yrs $15mm

    Votes: 48 44.9%
  • 6yrs $19.5mm

    Votes: 19 17.8%

  • Total voters
    107
While I’ve been called delusional at times (who isn’t) those who think Joe Moorhead might be our next HC need to look deeply into the mirror to see what delusion actually looks like.
There are three variables that can vault coaches into the mix as rational UConn HC targets.
MONEY—-if the size of their contract (and buyout) affords us the ability to offer substantially more including an assistant pool.
FIT—if they possess the criteria set down by the AD as being vital to the hire.
BOOST—if a stint at UConn can help lift the presumed arc of their personal career paths.

Whoever your favorite name is, test him against those variables and see how he measures up. I chose Toledo’s Jason Candle as an example of someone I would welcome as our HC. Then I did a little internet research to see how he measured up against the three criteria. Try that exercise with your own favorite name.
First the money.
“In 2015, Toledo OC Jason Candle was named Head Coach when Matt Campbell left for Iowa State, After successful seasons In 2016, ‘17 and ‘18, Candle signed a 2-year extension to remain the head football coach through 2023. The new contract makes Candle the highest paid head coach in the Mid-American Conference at $1.1 million. He’ll make an additional $25,000 each year until the end of the contract. There’s also a $450,000 buyout if Candle chooses to take another job.”

What about the second variable, fitting DB’s criteria, Candle has an undeniable offensive pedigree. He’s sustained and enhanced a successful winning program at Toledo. His combination of youth, charisma and energy bodes well for recruiting to provide UConn with a good chance for a winning program. He’s capable of both energizing the fan base and increasing the amount of giving.

Now, what about the third variable, is this a career boost?
“Candle reportedly has designs to take one of the big jobs in the midwest—Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame, Penn State, Michigan State. But would any of those schools hire a coach directly from the MAC? Even Urban Meyer (Bowling Green to Utah) and Brian Kelly (Central Michigan to Cincinnati) had another rung to climb between the MAC and the big time. So, if that also turns out to be the case with Candle, he seems perfectly primed to replace whoever is currently ahead of him in the FBS pecking order -- like Luke Fickell at Cincinnati who’s been rumored to be a top candidate at several schools, or, to bring it full circle, he could replace Matt Campbell at Iowa State if and when he moves on.”
(Now try and picture this phrase being added to that article)
—‘or perhaps (Candle) will seek the Head Coaching job at eastern independent UConn in a quest to resurrect their currently moribund program.

We all know money is a issue with the BOT but if the right candidate is there at the right price, even given the current debate on spending priorities—we’ll likely find it. And then, if the prospect generally fits the criteria DB is looking for—then it’s all about the third variable. Does the coaching candidate we desire see this job as more boost than bust to his resumé? Would the potential reward outweigh the risk? Answer that question and we’ll have our new HC, and he’ll be a more rational, less delusional choice than Joe Moorhead.
I dont think anyone here thinks we are getting Moorhead. The question was what would it take to get him. Everyone has a price and it would be advantageous to at least figure out what that price would be.
 
I don't think anyone here thinks we are getting Moorhead. The question was what would it take to get him.
That's like dreaming about getting connected with the SI swimsuit cover model. You don't really think you're getting her, you're just trying to determine what it would take. It doesn't take much analysis to figure that out.
 
I dont think anyone here thinks we are getting Moorhead. The question was what would it take to get him. Everyone has a price and it would be advantageous to at least figure out what that price would be.

I dunno ... some of this is pretty unhinged

I poke also at this notion that we are a candidate at a P5 slot. We are NOT. Not for at least a half dozen good years. I am rooting for something different. I think we are looking at 10-15 schools separating from P5 ... to a "Champions League" type elite at far more money and lightbulbs. That - to me - flattens a lot of the streaming and tv market so ... UCONN and Kansas and BC and Vanderbilt and Cal are on a plane that allows cross home and homes. Our schedule would be - Army, Buffalo, Temple, UMASS,, NAVY, Liberty plus two of BC, SU, Maryland, Rutgers every year. Plus a Buy in. One odd duck One FCS. I expect a rise in level of FCS to FBS of another dozen.

We are best off if there are 15 MEGA programs. 50-70 next tier (and we are included there). Wishing P5 was like yearning for Megan Fox for 15 years ... and finding out - she's just ok
 
So, they were paying $2 million and now they can't pay $2 million?
Essentially, yes. I hope they go to $2M or more and get the guy they want. But all evidence is that the university and athletic department has tried to hold the line on spending for football. They didn't even have enough money to renovate locker rooms at burton. Randy raised that money himself.

Unless they have the money in donations, it's going to be tough to increase the budget athletically in any material way. We'll see, but you will know fairly quickly how much they are going to pay by the names that appear. If you start hearing MAC and FCS, we are talking in the 900K-$1.5M range.
 
That's like dreaming about getting connected with the SI swimsuit cover model. You don't really think you're getting her, you're just trying to determine what it would take. It doesn't take much analysis to figure that out.
Pretty rich coming from the guy who has said we'd go to a bowl game every year for the last decade and talks up players who wouldn't start at an FCS school.

It was supposed to be a fun thought exercise and then you come in and completely miss the point, as usual. Read a room.

And yes it would be nuts to not even call the guy that wanted the job before. It takes 5 minutes.
 
Essentially, yes. I hope they go to $2M or more and get the guy they want. But all evidence is that the university and athletic department has tried to hold the line on spending for football. They didn't even have enough money to renovate locker rooms at burton. Randy raised that money himself.

Unless they have the money in donations, it's going to be tough to increase the budget athletically in any material way. We'll see, but you will know fairly quickly how much they are going to pay by the names that appear. If you start hearing MAC and FCS, we are talking in the 900K-$1.5M range.
If we can't offer over $1mm for the head coach than we shouldn't even be playing
 
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Essentially, yes. I hope they go to $2M or more and get the guy they want. But all evidence is that the university and athletic department has tried to hold the line on spending for football. They didn't even have enough money to renovate locker rooms at burton. Randy raised that money himself.

Unless they have the money in donations, it's going to be tough to increase the budget athletically in any material way. We'll see, but you will know fairly quickly how much they are going to pay by the names that appear. If you start hearing MAC and FCS, we are talking in the 900K-$1.5M range.

“If you start hearing MAC and FCS, we are talking in the 900K-$1.5M range.”

At that point if they’re not taking UConn football seriously then why are we? I would be happy if we offered Sean Lewis $1.5m if Herman or Moorhead turned down $3m a year. That would at least send a message that we tried, but if those guys aren’t at least offered because they want to save money for basketball then I don’t have high hopes for UConn football moving forward.
 
They don’t need to pay more than 1.5 unless that candidate is perfect fit(morehead) and in high demand. RE only got 1 because that is what he was worth and he was willing to accept that.
 
They don’t need to pay more than 1.5 unless that candidate is perfect fit(morehead) and in high demand. RE only got 1 because that is what he was worth and he was willing to accept that.
Edsall might have been willing to accept that but whether or not he was worth that is a different story.
 
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…Could UConn afford the money? I think so. Will UConn do it? I don't think they can politically or PR-wise.
That’s the issue. We have to spend the money right now if we are serious about being not sucky at the FBS level. Find the money somewhere. Politics and PR be d*mned. If not, our state culture finally kills the program, and with it enventually cripples the while entire athletic department (including the sacred cow bball programs, which I love). The whole top 25 public university thing will be left in the rubble as well.
 
Essentially, yes. I hope they go to $2M or more and get the guy they want. But all evidence is that the university and athletic department has tried to hold the line on spending for football. They didn't even have enough money to renovate locker rooms at burton. Randy raised that money himself.

Unless they have the money in donations, it's going to be tough to increase the budget athletically in any material way. We'll see, but you will know fairly quickly how much they are going to pay by the names that appear. If you start hearing MAC and FCS, we are talking in the 900K-$1.5M range.
Exactly. But I understand those that say the current trajectory is unsustainable too. That long term it is not possible to keep the budget the same and expect the program to be around in another 5 years. So something has to give.
 
Keep in mind that while they were paying Randy they were also paying off Diaco. So they actually were paying $4.3M. They could pay 3 million to a new coach and still come out over 1 million ahead.

Exactly, but his opinion is that the BoT won’t pay that for a great candidate. Let’s hope he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
 
? Diaco was off the books in 2017. He was paid out 60 days after getting whacked.
Just checked. I think you are right.
 
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? Diaco was off the books in 2017. He was paid out 60 days after getting whacked.

That same year you pointed out UConn had to pay Diaco $3.4m on top of paying Edsall $1m, which totals $4.4m in 2017 alone
 
? Diaco was off the books in 2017. He was paid out 60 days after getting whacked.
People act like we were double dip paying. We weren’t.
The money was paid to diaco. We accounted for that money up until now for accounting purposes.

that does not mean the money is now freed up.
 
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1. Moorhead can do better than UConn

2. Schools that are better will outbid us

Short of blackmail Moorhead isn’t happening
"Short of blackmail Moorhead isn't happening"
Will this help?
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People act like we were double dip paying. We weren’t.
The money was paid to diaco. We accounted for that money up until now for accounting purposes.

that does not mean the money is now freed up.
No, but it does show the school is capable of paying $4.3 million for the head-coaching position. That’s probably an easy visual for those who imagine that you can’t can’t afford to do it.
 
I still believe Moorhead is and should be the number 1 target for UConn. He's had probably the most successive stint as OC, made Fordham into a contender at the FCS level, had one of the nations top offenses at PSU, wasn't given a proper chance as MSU and just made OSU's defense look stupid. He's seen success as coordinator and HC in the northeast. I'm under no delusion he'll come here as he'll most will have better offers if Oregon makes it to the playoffs, but the school needs to try.
 

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