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hardcorehusky said:
Evers at Duke started with a 20+ yard run and in the early 4th quarter almost took one to the house but stepped on the sideline. After Buffalo, he got hurt and has never been the same.
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That’s kind of been the story with Evers he’s a play away or a non injury away from turning a corner. We gotta play Fagnano against Cuse need to do what’s best for the team, give Evers another week to get healthy then maybe you play both against Umass.
 
Scoe said:
That’s kind of been the story with Evers he’s a play away or a non injury away from turning a corner. We gotta play Fagnano against Cuse need to do what’s best for the team, give Evers another week to get healthy then maybe you play both against Umass.
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I think we all want Evers to develop but as he is at this moment in this season he is not the guy. Maybe he turns the corner on passing and recognition next year.
 
Finally got around to watching the UAB game last night. I was able to monitor the second half of the game using the ESPN gamecast.

A few things opened my eyes.

UConn was even during the first qtr, slightly better in the 3rd and dominated the 4th qtr. The second qtr was basically even until the clouds opened up and UAB dominated those last 10 minutes of the 1st half. I won't say the 20-3 score was misleading but it wasn't a 30 minute dominant performance by UAB.

The WR's screwed Evers with a couple of dropped balls in key spot and the turnovers didn't help either. UConn was actually decent on offense when Evers was in there....with one caveat, and that's why I posted this here.

Evers can't throw a deep ball to save his life. He was doing decent on the crossing patterns and shorter throws, but there is no reason for a defense to respect his arm 20 yards or deeper. The TD throws by Fagnano were absolutely passes Evers cannot make and it was easy to see how it forced the LB's and safeties to play honest and not crowd the line of scrimmage. The passing game opened up the running game.
I realize Fagnano is gone after this season. For the remaining regular season games and the bowl game, a healthy Fagnano has to start. He keeps the defense honest with his arm and his passing ability helps the running game more than Evers' ability as a runner helps the running game.

Going in to the offseason and for next year, if the coaches don't see a noticeable improvement on deep throws by Evers, there is no reason to annoint him a starter. I realize it's the total personnel package, but Sammis' offense runs better with a competent throwing QB than it does with a marginal dual threat QB.

Finally, someone from Mora's staff had to feed the announcers the line factoid about Mora never switching QB's midseason. Sorry, not sorry, but I highly doubt any media member thought to research that on their own.
 
gsmooth said:
How much better than 7-3 should they be?
I don't know the answer to that. But what I can tell you is that they would be 6-4 after the UAB game if Fagnano doesn't enter the game-the offense was stuck in mud in that UAB game. UConn needs the running game to be effective to be successful no matter who the QB is. The less effective the running game is the greater the chance for UConn to lose, it's that simple. Fagnano's passing ability will do more (than Evers) to keep the opposing defenses honest and make them more hesitant of selling out or loading the box to stop the run. With Evers, the defense really doesn't have to worry about the downfield passing. And Evers with his recent injuries is not a running threat at all now.

Don’t have luxury? What are you talking about?
I was responding to a post asking if I believed Nick Evers could be taught various QB skills. I said I am sure he has made some progress since he started, but not a lot, and that there is a huge urgency to get wins right now and for the next season with the importance and goal of getting a P4 invite. The offense is not being maximized with Evers, how long do you stick with him in hopes of training him as the starter in these skills while the offense isn't reaching it's true potential? UConn is winning in spite of Evers, not because of him.

According to Mora, there is $1.5M more coming in for NIL for UConn Football, that should be used to find the best possible QBs for next year for a QB competition with Welliver. And no, I don't think Tucker McDonald is the guy for next year.

I don’t get this post.
I hope you get it now.
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You don’t know we’d be 6-4. That’s a guess.

Do you think if we win 8 games, we get an invite? 9? 10? What’s the number? The answer is likely none of the above - we have to show others we are serious about football, but we also have to build a sustainable program and not a 1 year aberration.

And do you have to be so condescending in your responses. There are times when this board was frigging more enjoyable when we sucked.
 
Chin Diesel said:
Finally, someone from Mora's staff had to feed the announcers the line factoid about Mora never switching QB's midseason. Sorry, not sorry, but I highly doubt any media member thought to research that on their own.
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So, I looked up Mora's QB history.

Mora was at UCLA from 2012 to 2017. His first 3 years, his QB was Brett Hundley who ended up being drafted in Rd. 5. His QB for the next 3 years was Josh Rosen who was the 10th player picked in the NFL draft. Rosen was replaced in 2016 due to a shoulder injury midway through the season.

In his 3 year stint at Atlanta, his QB was Michael Vick and he was never replaced as the starter. For his one year at Seattle, his QB was Matt Hasselbeck who had a mediocre season, but there was nobody better on the roster.

Mora has had really good QBs in his past, so he never had to make a decision on his QB starter based on their play.
 
UConnJim said:
So, I looked up Mora's QB history.

Mora was at UCLA from 2012 to 2017. His first 3 years, his QB was Brett Hundley who ended up being drafted in Rd. 5. His QB for the next 3 years was Josh Rosen who was the 10th player picked in the NFL draft. Rosen was replaced in 2016 due to a shoulder injury midway through the season.

In his 3 year stint at Atlanta, his QB was Michael Vick and he was never replaced as the starter. For his one year at Seattle, his QB was Matt Hasselbeck who had a mediocre season, but there was nobody better on the roster.

Mora has had really good QBs in his past, so he never had to make a decision on his QB starter based on their play.
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Thanks for looking this up. Sometimes, a story line builds up without any context. THIS is the context...
 
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UConnJim said:
So, I looked up Mora's QB history.

Mora was at UCLA from 2012 to 2017. His first 3 years, his QB was Brett Hundley who ended up being drafted in Rd. 5. His QB for the next 3 years was Josh Rosen who was the 10th player picked in the NFL draft. Rosen was replaced in 2016 due to a shoulder injury midway through the season.

In his 3 year stint at Atlanta, his QB was Michael Vick and he was never replaced as the starter. For his one year at Seattle, his QB was Matt Hasselbeck who had a mediocre season, but there was nobody better on the roster.

Mora has had really good QBs in his past, so he never had to make a decision on his QB starter based on their play.
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Nice research. I'll go on a limb and suggest none of the media who chirped out the "Mora has never swapped QB's mid-season" did the amount of research you did.
 
Waquoit said:
Weren't they quoting Mora?
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They may have done that. I'm already six days behind the game time-frame.
For argument's sake, I'll say you're right and they are repeating something Mora said.
My point still stands. They took it from a source and not from research. Lol.
 
gioff2323 said:
You don’t know we’d be 6-4. That’s a guess.

Do you think if we win 8 games, we get an invite? 9? 10? What’s the number? The answer is likely none of the above - we have to show others we are serious about football, but we also have to build a sustainable program and not a 1 year aberration.

And do you have to be so condescending in your responses. There are times when this board was frigging more enjoyable when we sucked.
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Just wait until all the alternate history theorists come out and say no matter what our result against Syracuse is, that Joey would have done better or that Nick would have done worse.

It’s gotten harder and harder to think that Evers is the solution for us but I continue to believe in Jim Mora and what he’s done for this program.
 
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jbdphi said:
Just wait until all the alternate history theorists come out and say no matter what our result against Syracuse is, that Joey would have done better or that Nick would have done worse.

It’s gotten harder and harder to think that Evers is the solution for us but I continue to believe in Jim Mora and what he’s done for this program.
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Let's put it this way. I'll feel better if we lose with fagnano knowing we put forward our best shot than hoping Evers develops. It's going to be tough regardless
 
In my opinion, let Fagnano finish out the season he's clearly way more equipped to be the starter, and maybe start Evers again in the bowl game cause what he absolutely needs the most is development which is why I'm happy we're making a bowl game all those extra practices you get from the time between the bowl games are crucial in improvement, the more time Evers gets learning this offense and being able to develop his skills the better, he still has barely started or played any meaningful minutes at the college level in like what 2 years?
 
UConnJim said:
So, I looked up Mora's QB history.

Mora was at UCLA from 2012 to 2017. His first 3 years, his QB was Brett Hundley who ended up being drafted in Rd. 5. His QB for the next 3 years was Josh Rosen who was the 10th player picked in the NFL draft. Rosen was replaced in 2016 due to a shoulder injury midway through the season.

In his 3 year stint at Atlanta, his QB was Michael Vick and he was never replaced as the starter. For his one year at Seattle, his QB was Matt Hasselbeck who had a mediocre season, but there was nobody better on the roster.

Mora has had really good QBs in his past, so he never had to make a decision on his QB starter based on their play.
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Solid work.
 
huskidork said:
In my opinion, let Fagnano finish out the season he's clearly way more equipped to be the starter, and maybe start Evers again in the bowl game cause what he absolutely needs the most is development which is why I'm happy we're making a bowl game all those extra practices you get from the time between the bowl games are crucial in improvement, the more time Evers gets learning this offense and being able to develop his skills the better, he still has barely started or played any meaningful minutes at the college level in like what 2 years?
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Re: Nick

a lot of us feel that if "it" was there, we would have seen it by now.
We may sure be wrong, and "it" is there, but we don't have the time nor the safety of conference payout income, to find out.
a 0-28 halftime score vs. Syracuse will mean game over. we're not coming back from that.

We need wins yesterday and this development project is putting wins at risk, as we clearly saw against UAB.
Those kinds of performances can maybeee be forgiven still vs a P4 team (less so as time goes on), but everyone knew UAB was bad. They are bad. We had no business losing that game on paper or in real life, and yet there we were, getting owned by a trash team. Yes the defense was lacking, but I've seen enough football to know that offensive performance affects defensive morale. The further the offense wallows, the less the defense has to play for, and that's when blowouts begin.

I think all of us understood and were patient early in the season. but 10 games in, you have what you have. There isn't a corner for Nick to turn, not right now, anyway --- maybe in the spring.

Hugely appreciate Nick as a person, wish him the absolute best, and it may still work out for him here, given his age. But we need to stack wins to show the power conferences we mean business. Nick ain't it, for these 3 remaining weeks.

Ball goes to Joe, until he can't anymore.
 
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JohnFSilver said:
You think Fagnano would have made the difference? he nearly cost UConn the temple game if we are going to critique everything bad from Evers.

If you want to think Mora doesn’t know what he is doing, and has political pressure, and they would be 9-1 if they started Fagnano then, OK, say it.

And, I changed my tune. Start Fagnano and see if he can be accurate the entire game.
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Some can't see past their own nose when it comes to bad play from one or the other.

Fagnano is the better passer now and that will be needed against Syracuse next week for sure.
 
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UConnDan97 said:
Well said.

This is a great reminder to Husky Nation that we don't always have it right and it's better to err on the side of supportive rather than negative. Fagnano was a beast today!
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I did after watching Evers for the first half of the Maryland game. Same for when he came back midseason. Very obvious upgrade with Fagnano if you value scoring.
 
Purple Stein said:
Man, on this board, last year, he was called the "worst quarterback in the history of UConn" who only got the starting nod because of nepotism.

I'm 100% here for the Fagnano redemption arc. I was devastated when he left Maine but thrilled to have him here at UConn. He is a competent FBS quarterback and, based on how this season has played out, he's a heck of a teammate, too.
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I was definitely one that questioned Joey getting the starting spot. And yes he took the brunt of the frustration and was scapegoated over a disappointing season. Unfairly it should go without saying.

But when new information becomes available we can all change our opinions.

Many people assumed Roberson was a shoe in. Former 4 star player, Penn State etc. And he looked good in one drive at Utah State,

When he beat Roberson for the second time that pretty much sealed it for me.

I wonder if he was hurt early on against NC State and he was just playing hurt?
 
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TouchdownHusky said:
I did after watching Evers for the first half of the Maryland game. Same for when he came back midseason. Very obvious upgrade with Fagnano if you value scoring.
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