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It has a capacity of 40K which would easily be the smallest facility in the B1G, Ryan Field at Northwestern is currently the smallest and it seats 52K, but NU has been in the B1G forever. When was the last time the stadium was renovated? Can it be expanded? Would the University consider expanding it.
 
As a long-time college football fan, I think I can accurately state that no one who isn't a UCONN grad cares a hoot about UCONN football. The only thing they care less about is WCBB. Jacobs calling WBB a 'major sport' is a joke.
While posted here on the WCBB site - the article if you read closely is referring to the money sports of football and men's basketball - hence the count of 4 championships (men's basketball) and comparing that total to the totals between those two sports at P5 universities. He is pointing out that as far as fielding competitive teams in those two men's sports, Uconn can hold its head high against a lot of really mediocre teams including many of the expansion schools that have joined P5 conferences.
 
It has a capacity of 40K which would easily be the smallest facility in the B1G, Ryan Field at Northwestern is currently the smallest and it seats 52K, but NU has been in the B1G forever. When was the last time the stadium was renovated? Can it be expanded? Would the University consider expanding it.
Why expand it when they can't fill it? It has a max of 42,000 or so seats. In our "heyday", we averaged about 38,000 fans. this past season i think it was about 31,000.

Next season should be a good one for UCONN football and I would hope that our per game average would be north of 35,000 - maybe even close to 40,000, but fans will come to teams that win, especially for a fledgling football program.

I hope Diaco stays at least 7-8 years. I think he's on the right track, but I imagine coaches see UCONN as a stepping stone and I would not be surprised to see him bolt after 5 years, just like Edsell did in heading to Maryland, which in hindsight was disastrous for him.

I don't disagree with people who say UCONN isn't ready for the big time. BUT... they are trending in the right direction and I'd imagine they could easily expand if they were to get teams like OSU, Wisconsin, Michigan, etc etc. Those teams would draw way more interest than Villanova, ECU and Tulane. In a way it's a catch 22.
 
That was my entire point, UConn Football does not draw eyeballs to TV's, even UConn Men's Basketball isn't a big TV draw. The B1G felt that Rutgers would be a better route to the NY Market and it didn't want BC for reasons that Mr. Delaney wasn't able to clearly articulate. The team that the B1G is salivating for openly is ND who is a huge draw in multiple sports. The contract for the B1G Network is in its final year and ESPiN is reportedly ready to shell out record bucks to get it from Fox. UConn's FB program just isn't up to P5 level yet and until it is, there will be no invite no matter how many Natty's the WCBB win.
 
It has a capacity of 40K which would easily be the smallest facility in the B1G, Ryan Field at Northwestern is currently the smallest and it seats 52K, but NU has been in the B1G forever. When was the last time the stadium was renovated? Can it be expanded? Would the University consider expanding it.
At the time it was made, it was designed to be expanded to by 10-15k more seats, which would put it in the upper half of Big 12 stadiums.
That was my entire point, UConn Football does not draw eyeballs to TV's, even UConn Men's Basketball isn't a big TV draw.
Lol, are you sure that Men's BB doesn't have good ratings?

Regarding, Football TV ratings, two quick points. Connecticut is still recovering from a devastating HC hire of this guy...

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The losing season's under his watch devastated the program, but things are on the way back under Bob Diaco.

Keep in mind that for a lot of schedule, our young, recovering football program is the "marquee" team. Put us in a P5 league and our TV ratings and attendance will jump dramatically.
 
When was the last time the stadium was renovated? Can it be expanded? Would the University consider expanding it.

Renovated - geez, it only opened in 2003.

It can be expanded and it has been widely noted that there are already footings in place to add an additional level opposite the press box to increase capacity by 10-15K. The AD has already stated if there was a need to increase capacity (increased attendance/conference affiliation requirement) then expansion would be pursued.
 
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Keep in mind that for a lot of schedule, our young, recovering football program is the "marquee" team. Put us in a P5 league and our TV ratings and attendance will jump dramatically.

Seems to me a chicken and egg conundrum. Does UConn need to fill football seats to get to a P5 league (most probably scenario I think) or do we hopefully wriggle our way in to a power conference and expect that everything goes rosy afterward as CL82 expects?

I haven't lived in CT for decades but I don't ever remember it being a football state. Never able to support a minor league team in Hartford, and even in the year the Huskies went to the Fiesta Bowl, it seemed that there weren't sellouts at Renschler.
 
As a long-time college football fan, I think I can accurately state that no one who isn't a UCONN grad cares a hoot about UCONN football. The only thing they care less about is WCBB. Jacobs calling WBB a 'major sport' is a joke. Obviously I'm a big fan, but the reality is we WBB fans are outliers, with too small numbers to have any economic clout at all.

I'm an Oklahoma grad, so for football I'm incredibly spoiled. But, as a personal example of UCONN's place in the world, in 2010 when UCONN was showing signs of being respectable, they got into the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma. I live in Phoenix, so I was able to go. It was embarrassing. Everybody knew Oklahoma was going to kill them and they did. No point at all to playing this game. Plus UCONN lost hundreds of thousands of $$ on the game because they had to buy a bunch of tickets and hotel rooms which nobody used. In addition to winning, the program needs some real fan support when the do. Anyway, total bummer all the way around.

The only way to get anyone's attention in the P5 conferences is to WIN in football. I don't know what the governor or senators or attorney general can do about this, but something needs to change or all the journalist whining in the world won't get us in a P5 conference.

And what happened to Oklahoma this year. Blown out by 20. The Fiesta Bowl is a tired story. Give it a rest. And I won't mention what happened to Michigan State this year. So by your standards, the two semifinal games this year shouldn't have been played!
 
... even in the year the Huskies went to the Fiesta Bowl, it seemed that there weren't sellouts at Renschler.

2010 UConn Football Home Attendance (Fiesta Bowl year) (capacity is 40,642)

37,359 Tx So
36,728 Buffalo
40,000 Vanderbilt
40,000 West Virginia
35,391 Pitt
40,000 Cincinnati

Unfortunately the bottom out during the Pasqualoni years. Attendance is on the rise again, and as other UConn sports teams fans have shown - if the opponent is exciting, the seats are filled. ho-hum opponents - not so much.
 
Seems to me a chicken and egg conundrum. Does UConn need to fill football seats to get to a P5 league (most probably scenario I think) or do we hopefully wriggle our way in to a power conference and expect that everything goes rosy afterward as CL82 expects?

I haven't lived in CT for decades but I don't ever remember it being a football state. Never able to support a minor league team in Hartford, and even in the year the Huskies went to the Fiesta Bowl, it seemed that there weren't sellouts at Renschler.
Our attendance was actually pretty good, pre Pasqualoni. Of course you're right, I'm, necessarily, speculating, but I suspect more people want to see Oklahoma than Tulane and Texas rather than Tulsa. I doubt many would disagree with that.

You might find Rutgers a useful analogy. It's football attendance went through the roof when it first joined the Big 10.
 
And what happened to Oklahoma this year. Blown out by 20. The Fiesta Bowl is a tired story. Give it a rest. And I won't mention what happened to Michigan State this year. So by your standards, the two semifinal games this year shouldn't have been played!
Regardless of what happened to Oklahoma and Michigan State after they got to the national semifinals, they're big-time programs and they GOT THERE. They won their respective P5 conference championships, and won all their OOC games. I hate to say it, but many UCONN fans are delusional - either in thinking any of the P5 would value our WBB success (delusional and generally unaware of one's surroundings), or in thinking the UCONN football program is on the brink of being successful enough to be attractive to a P5 conference (merely delusional).

I would LOVE to see UCONN get into a P5 conference. I thought they were on the way when the Big East was a BCS conference and UCONN was showing signs of life, but that's ancient history now. Need to bring in a big-time coach who will bring in recruits and put butts in the seats. Schedule P5 OOC opponents, and beat them, so the butts stay in the seats, people actually want to watch on TV, and we get more recruits' attention. This doesn't happen overnight, but at today's pace it won't happen in many of our lifetimes.
 
Regardless of what happened to Oklahoma and Michigan State after they got to the national semifinals, they're big-time programs and they GOT THERE. They won their respective P5 conference championships, and won all their OOC games. I hate to say it, but many UCONN fans are delusional - either in thinking any of the P5 would value our WBB success (delusional and generally unaware of one's surroundings), or in thinking the UCONN football program is on the brink of being successful enough to be attractive to a P5 conference (merely delusional).

I would LOVE to see UCONN get into a P5 conference. I thought they were on the way when the Big East was a BCS conference and UCONN was showing signs of life, but that's ancient history now. Need to bring in a big-time coach who will bring in recruits and put butts in the seats. Schedule P5 OOC opponents, and beat them, so the butts stay in the seats, people actually want to watch on TV, and we get more recruits' attention. This doesn't happen overnight, but at today's pace it won't happen in many of our lifetimes.
You really are behind the curve on the analysis of this issue. Seriously, stop by the Conference Realignment board, if you are curious about it. There are a lot more moving pieces to it than you surmise.
 
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2010 UConn Football Home Attendance (Fiesta Bowl year) (capacity is 40,642)

37,359 Tx So
36,728 Buffalo
40,000 Vanderbilt
40,000 West Virginia
35,391 Pitt
40,000 Cincinnati

Unfortunately the bottom out during the Pasqualoni years. Attendance is on the rise again, and as other UConn sports teams fans have shown - if the opponent is exciting, the seats are filled. ho-hum opponents - not so much.

Thanks for the data - I'm glad to learn I was wrong about the fan support that year.
 
Crappy stadium? Clearly, the poster who said that has never been there. It's a great stadium. Beautiful sight lines, great tailgating. If we ever get a P5 slot, expansion will begin soon after and we will sell out league games. And we will have a huge home field advantage, teams will dread coming here.
 
Crappy stadium? Clearly, the poster who said that has never been there. It's a great stadium. Beautiful sight lines, great tailgating. If we ever get a P5 slot, expansion will begin soon after and we will sell out league games. And we will have a huge home field advantage, teams will dread coming here.

One thing I recall from watching a few nationally televised home games: the announcers mentioning that though small in seating capacity, Renschler was second to none in the country in terms of amenities, particularly for the players and coaches.

I'm not aware of many colleges investing in new football stadiums in recent years though I'm sure some have had renovations and upgrading. Still, I'd bet the Rent remains one of the best.

As a side note, I remember listening to a story on National Public Radio from a few years back - the Univ of Massachusetts was assessing upgrading their football program at the time. Does anyone know what the final decision was up in Amherst?
 
UMass is now D-1, but they just got booted from the MAC and are trying to make it as an independent. They split their home games between campus and Gillette Stadium
UConn just announced a series of games with UMass.

BTW, they got the boot because the MAC insisted they join for all sports and UMass wanted to stay in the A10.
 
UMass is now D-1, but they just got booted from the MAC and are trying to make it as an independent. They split their home games between campus and Gillette Stadium
UConn just announced a series of games with UMass.

BTW, they got the boot because the MAC insisted they join for all sports and UMass wanted to stay in the A10.

Until recently, I never paid much attention to the fact that some schools split their conference alignment. I was really excited when I heard Navy was joining the AAC because I have a close friend who works at the Naval Academy and thought I'd combine a visit to Annapolis with taking in a women's game. Didn't realize at the time that they were in the conference only for football.
 
Regardless of what happened to Oklahoma and Michigan State after they got to the national semifinals, they're big-time programs and they GOT THERE. They won their respective P5 conference championships, and won all their OOC games. I hate to say it, but many UCONN fans are delusional - either in thinking any of the P5 would value our WBB success (delusional and generally unaware of one's surroundings), or in thinking the UCONN football program is on the brink of being successful enough to be attractive to a P5 conference (merely delusional).

I would LOVE to see UCONN get into a P5 conference. I thought they were on the way when the Big East was a BCS conference and UCONN was showing signs of life, but that's ancient history now. Need to bring in a big-time coach who will bring in recruits and put butts in the seats. Schedule P5 OOC opponents, and beat them, so the butts stay in the seats, people actually want to watch on TV, and we get more recruits' attention. This doesn't happen overnight, but at today's pace it won't happen in many of our lifetimes.
I know Houston's quarterback was out when it happened but didn't the Huskies beat Houston (for their only loss) and didn't Houston kick the crap out of FSU who had won a national championship two years ago and last year was in the playoffs for a national championship???? To presume that UConn's attendance wouldn't increase appreciably if they were in a major conference with the likes of OSU and Michigan and Michigan State coming in along with Nebraska???? The potential to compete against these major schools alone would bring in better recruits as it did for the men's basketball team and probably the women's as well. Coaches will tell you that without talent, it's virtually impossible to compete seriously with quality opponents. No one would have ever assumed that we would be the "basketball center of the universe" as Jay Bilas noted just a few short years ago and though it's more difficult to transition to the top of the heap in football, who would have thought TCU and Texas Tech and Texas A&M would have had the success they've had over the last ten years or so along with a lot of other schools, in college football. It started somewhere, didn't it??? How many schools are there that have done virtually nothing in forever and yet are entrenched in major conferences. Kansas in football???? Indiana????? Up until a while back, how many people knew that Oregon even had a football program. They were totally unheard of and does Oregon State have a great reputation??? I have no doubt that we would have some success if both on the field and in the stands if we were to get accepted into a major conference that centered on college football because our administration has done itself proud in a various sports, winning national titles in basketball, field hockey, soccer! Not too shabby in my opinion.
 
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At the time it was made, it was designed to be expanded to by 10-15k more seats, which would put it in the upper half of Big 12 stadiums.
Lol, are you sure that Men's BB doesn't have good ratings?

Regarding, Football TV ratings, two quick points. Connecticut is still recovering from a devastating HC hire of this guy...

paul-pasqualoni_large_large.jpg


The losing season's under his watch devastated the program, but things are on the way back under Bob Diaco.

Keep in mind that for a lot of schedule, our young, recovering football program is the "marquee" team. Put us in a P5 league and our TV ratings and attendance will jump dramatically.
I don't really have a dog in this discussion other than my affinity for the UConn WBB team, but this hire was simply stupifying. And at such an unfortunate time.
 
As a long-time college football fan, I think I can accurately state that no one who isn't a UCONN grad cares a hoot about UCONN football. The only thing they care less about is WCBB. Jacobs calling WBB a 'major sport' is a joke. Obviously I'm a big fan, but the reality is we WBB fans are outliers, with too small numbers to have any economic clout at all.

I'm an Oklahoma grad, so for football I'm incredibly spoiled. But, as a personal example of UCONN's place in the world, in 2010 when UCONN was showing signs of being respectable, they got into the Fiesta Bowl against Oklahoma. I live in Phoenix, so I was able to go. It was embarrassing. Everybody knew Oklahoma was going to kill them and they did. No point at all to playing this game. Plus UCONN lost hundreds of thousands of $$ on the game because they had to buy a bunch of tickets and hotel rooms which nobody used. In addition to winning, the program needs some real fan support when the do. Anyway, total bummer all the way around.

The only way to get anyone's attention in the P5 conferences is to WIN in football. I don't know what the governor or senators or attorney general can do about this, but something needs to change or all the journalist whining in the world won't get us in a P5 conference.

j66. Kinda harsh on our girls' sport. Not easy to gather supporters when you refer to WCBB as a "joke". I know what you mean to say but next time maybe use the phrase "wishful thinking" (as in Jacobs calling WBB a major sport is "wishful thinking") instead of qualifying our passion as "a joke". It might not be more accurate, but it will make us feel better.
 
Jacobs is a very good writer. He should keep writing such material. I believe that the top Uconn officials don't really care as long as they keep collecting their large salaries. It also bothers me that the coaches, althletic directors, etc. of the top conferences(who were such "great friends" with the same at Uconn) completely abandoned them when they were reorganizing their leagues. I believe it really goes back to the trouncing that many of these teams took at the hands of the Uconn Men's and Women's basketball teams. Did you happen to notice how many women's basketball teams WANT to play a young Uconn team next year?
Monte- it's not personal - it's business. The relationships meant nothing- it's about Money. Which means football and tv. Dave Gavitt saw the end result way way back when he had Penn State and someone else ready to come in to protect the football schools from eventually leaving. When they got voted down 5-4? By the Catholic basketball only schools- he saw the end 10-15 yr's prior to the end. It was the only vote he couldn't convince everyone was in all their best interests. Tragedy.
 
j66. Kinda harsh on our girls' sport. Not easy to gather supporters when you refer to WCBB as a "joke". I know what you mean to say but next time maybe use the phrase "wishful thinking" (as in Jacobs calling WBB a major sport is "wishful thinking") instead of qualifying our passion as "a joke". It might not be more accurate, but it will make us feel better.
I didn't mean to say WBB is a joke. I said Jacobs calling it a major sport is a joke. I interpret "major" to mean enough people are watching it and caring about it to translate into it being economically viable, stand-alone. Sorry to be so harsh. WCBB is "major" to me, or I wouldn't be here.

Anyway, I have since been corrected - Jacobs was only referring to FB and MBB as major sports.
 
I know Houston's quarterback was out when it happened but didn't the Huskies beat Houston (for their only loss) and didn't Houston kick the crap out of FSU who had won a national championship two years ago and last year was in the playoffs for a national championship???? To presume that UConn's attendance wouldn't increase appreciably if they were in a major conference with the likes of OSU and Michigan and Michigan State coming in along with Nebraska???? The potential to compete against these major schools alone would bring in better recruits as it did for the men's basketball team and probably the women's as well. Coaches will tell you that without talent, it's virtually impossible to compete seriously with quality opponents. No one would have ever assumed that we would be the "basketball center of the universe" as Jay Bilas noted just a few short years ago and though it's more difficult to transition to the top of the heap in football, who would have thought TCU and Texas Tech and Texas A&M would have had the success they've had over the last ten years or so along with a lot of other schools, in college football. It started somewhere, didn't it??? How many schools are there that have done virtually nothing in forever and yet are entrenched in major conferences. Kansas in football???? Indiana????? Up until a while back, how many people knew that Oregon even had a football program. They were totally unheard of and does Oregon State have a great reputation??? I have no doubt that we would have some success if both on the field and in the stands if we were to get accepted into a major conference that centered on college football because our administration has done itself proud in a various sports, winning national titles in basketball, field hockey, soccer! Not too shabby in my opinion.
Don't disagree at all. Unfortunately UCONN isn't already there, nor do we apparently have a Phil Knight, Red McCombs or T. Boone Pickens type of booster. So the issue is, how do we GET there?
 
In my reading of the article we were asked to go beyond the everyday well rehearsed statements- 'we are not very good at FB, we are a BB school ...' which is more or less what some are repeating here. In fact, one could easily come away from his article with the feeling of 'conspiracy' against Uconn, executed by everyone from the NCAA to the media/ESPN, etc. A murder is taking place in broad daylight and no one is (want to) look. Talking about stadium size, how many games won this or last year, or getting the Godfather of FB coaching to come and coach here is irrelevant. Here I am in full agreement with him, but I would be incline to take it further or in places where he might be unwilling to go. Yes, there is an opposition out there, but this out there might also be an 'in here' as well. That is, is there an opposition right inside the hen's house to Uconn becoming a full fledged FB school? Is there a sizable group within the state who think we are- and have been better off in the BE with all the Catholic schools and playing FB with the Maine, etc.? While I do not support this view overall, many (if not all) of big time FB schools make me nervous, because they are more farm systems then universities. It is the networks and their dollars that are ruling sports lie FB.
 
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I didn't mean to say WBB is a joke. I said Jacobs calling it a major sport is a joke. I interpret "major" to mean enough people are watching it and caring about it to translate into it being economically viable, stand-alone.

You are still off base. UConn-DePaul was the highest rated college basketball game of the week on NBCSN. And I don't think it was because of DePaul. And it's the 3rd highest rated game of the season to date. It's rating was 2.5x higher than the season average of Big East men's games. Throw in the big ratings UConn gets on ESPN and that sounds like enough people watch and care to me.
 
You are still off base. UConn-DePaul was the highest rated college basketball game of the week on NBCSN. And I don't think it was because of DePaul. And it's the 3rd highest rated game of the season to date. It's rating was 2.5x higher than the season average of Big East men's games. Throw in the big ratings UConn gets on ESPN and that sounds like enough people watch and care to me.
Not sure what you're saying.... That enough people watch WBB to make it economically viable, stand-alone?
 
I can't speak for Waquoit, but I'd say that UConn WBB moves the needle. It certainly isn't going to be the reason why anyone gets into a conference, but it has value. That's why SNY was willing to pay $1M for the broadcast rights to their games.
 
I can't speak for Waquoit, but I'd say that UConn WBB moves the needle. It certainly isn't going to be the reason why anyone gets into a conference, but it has value. That's why SNY was willing to pay $1M for the broadcast rights to their games.

I would say you spoke very well. UConn WBB is valuable content to any conference, especially one trying to establish a network. It's not nothing like the poster is trying to insinuate. If nobody cared about it, it wouldn't get the ratings it does.
 
I didn't mean to say WBB is a joke. I said Jacobs calling it a major sport is a joke. I interpret "major" to mean enough people are watching it and caring about it to translate into it being economically viable, stand-alone. Sorry to be so harsh. WCBB is "major" to me, or I wouldn't be here.

Anyway, I have since been corrected - Jacobs was only referring to FB and MBB as major sports.


j66, I didn't mean to start an attack on your comments. Your posts year-round demonstrtae your interest in our sport. I jumped because I have to listen to non-believers use that word (joke) when describing women's sports, and after more than twenty years of following UCONN's wcbb, and ten years of watching my own tribe play three different sports at three different colleges I can (when given the chance) make a strong case for the validity of the women's sports that we choose to follow. ( Four years ago Penn St. came back from being down 2-0 to Texas in the NCAA women's volleyball championships after they were being blown out, and I adjudged that to be the most exciting sporting event I saw that year. I found it hard to make that case to the misogynists I know)

This thread began with posters stating that the powers to be at the P-5 conference care more about football than they do about any of the other 35 sports that the NCAA recognizes, and that is certainly the truth. But more's the pity for those who mistake spectacle for sport, or size and strength for athleticism.
 
This thread began with posters stating that the powers to be at the P-5 conference care more about football than they do about any of the other 35 sports that the NCAA recognizes, and that is certainly the truth. But more's the pity for those who mistake spectacle for sport, or size and strength for athleticism.
Great post - the whole thing, I actually don't care for Penn State Volleyball and don't tend to watch finals they are involved in. In fact, this year we were unable to watch the F4 at all, I would have enjoyed it. But volleyball can be incredibly exciting. Love softball as well, and were sitting at a recent Arizona WBB game with 2 friends (shockingly, transplanted UConn fans) that are huge fans of Arizona Women's Soccer and find it very exciting.

But, as you say correctly, football drives the bus. There is also something to be said for folks who talk about football vs. basketball schools. Make no mistake, Arizona is a basketball school. 4 years of RichRod, 4 bowls including one Fiesta Bowl, an exciting style of play -- and it is always obvious that fans out here are into Men's Basketball so much more than football. But football will always generate the higher revenue, I believe.

As pointed out in this thread, conferences have a variety of reasons for wanting certain teams. UConn's strong WBB program is not going to get them invited anywhere, by itself. That said, it certainly might sweeten the pot for some conferences.
 
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