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So we all know JC's names carries hella water in the college basketball community. Young guns want to play for top coaches at top programs. IMO JC was kinda loosin touch with his players over the last couple years. Ya we won in 2011 but most of those dudes comin to Storrs were the work of our asst's ...mainly KO. JC carried the name. Was oriahki a clown? ya prob but he raised some flags when he dipped from storrs saying calhoun was a slave driver etc. We had so much talent this past year but them dudes didn't want to play for JC anymore. As an outsider lookin in, there seemed to be some bad blood in that lockerroom.

KO is definitely gonna be a players coach. He relates to the kids. I think he's gonna do wonders for recruiting. JC put us on the map and built us the reputation as one of the top programs out there. For that we'll always be thankful, but im more than ready for KO to get his ass on the R trail and bring us some of the best ballers out there. Get it in KO cuz its your time to shine.
 

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No relationship problems. Not every player can be a Rashamel Jones. Every player JC recruited was told he had to earn playing time. AO and RS just couldn't accept that philosophy. Probably didn't think that anyone could be better then them when they entered the program is all.
 

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All those guys Duffy was talking about are going to sign with us now.
 
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So we all know JC's names carries hella water in the college basketball community. Young guns want to play for top coaches at top programs. IMO JC was kinda loosin touch with his players over the last couple years. Ya we won in 2011 but most of those dudes comin to Storrs were the work of our asst's ...mainly KO. JC carried the name. Was oriahki a clown? ya prob but he raised some flags when he dipped from storrs saying calhoun was a slave driver etc. We had so much talent this past year but them dudes didn't want to play for JC anymore. As an outsider lookin in, there seemed to be some bad blood in that lockerroom.

KO is definitely gonna be a players coach. He relates to the kids. I think he's gonna do wonders for recruiting. JC put us on the map and built us the reputation as one of the top programs out there. For that we'll always be thankful, but im more than ready for KO to get his ass on the R trail and bring us some of the best ballers out there. Get it in KO cuz its your time to shine.

WRONG....It's ajoke you think they didn't want to play for JC........not very smart are you? They wouldn't have played for anyone who would've put them on their asses on the pine which is exactly where they belonged. They turned out to be bums, never improved and were highly overrated. That may be JC and his staffs fault for not seeing that but as far as coaching them, AO was coached by his dad and how did that work out for him?

The players have lost touch with reality it's not JC. The kids have an entourage and stuff now and think they are better than they are therefore expect to hear "You can come in and play 30 minutes the day you step on our campus..." and they are never going to hear that from JC. They don't want to have some coach getting in their faces when they screw up because "their boyz" are in the stand and watching on TV .......they have their ears open to the wrong people.....I still think if he was healthy, didn't have to take time off months at a time the last few years due to health, he wouldn't have missed a beat on the recruiting trail but that hurt him and maybe UConn and he knew it. The "good" kids who knew they had to earn the time still knew he was one of the best coaches EVER in the game so he would've been fine. (see Omar Calhoun)

But in a way you are correct, KO will be able to communicate with the kids and I believe the families of the kids will fall in love with the man and trust him with their sons, JUST LIKE they did with JC.......
 
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All those guys Duffy was talking about are going to sign with us now.

That would be impressive huh?

Mayes tomorrow, Woodson reconsiders, Agau follows.....we can dream, we did 26 years ago!!
 

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You can bet Kevin Ollie is going to be on the phone tonight with some recruits who had crossed UConn off the list.

KO has been killing it on the recruiting trail. He managed to get the last two without JC even being on campus!

Game preparation and halftime adjustments -- nobody can replace JC in those departments. But if anyone can come close, maybe it's Kevin Ollie and a bunch of other guys who all played for JC.
 
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You can bet Kevin Ollie is going to be on the phone tonight with some recruits who had crossed UConn off the list.

KO has been killing it on the recruiting trail. He managed to get the last two without JC even being on campus!

Game preparation and halftime adjustments -- nobody can replace JC in those departments. But if anyone can come close, maybe it's Kevin Ollie and a bunch of other guys who all played for JC.

You bet and having Karl and Glenn right there won't hurt either......I wonder if George stays on board or they add a Freeman or someone else? That should be interesting as it plays out!!

George is still a great bball guy and would be more than welcome to sit and add his intellect!!
 
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You can bet Kevin Ollie is going to be on the phone tonight with some recruits who had crossed UConn off the list.

KO has been killing it on the recruiting trail. He managed to get the last two without JC even being on campus!

Game preparation and halftime adjustments -- nobody can replace JC in those departments. But if anyone can come close, maybe it's Kevin Ollie and a bunch of other guys who all played for JC.
Dont know if you are on twitter but i saw earlier that Dave Borges from the NH Register tweeted that Ollie has contacted the recruits tonight to update them on the situation. I think KO will be an excellent recruiter. It seems that he can relate to these kids and they genuinely like him. All of the people that are anti Ollie are out of their minds.
 

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It is interesting, if a recruit cut UConn because Ollie wasn't coach in waiting, it stands to reason they would reconsider now that he is going to be named the coach.
 
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It is interesting, if a recruit cut UConn because Ollie wasn't coach in waiting, it stands to reason they would reconsider now that he is going to be named the coach.
Well I guess the issue is that Ollie is only getting a one year contract. So the recruits still don't know that they will be playing for him when they get to UConn.
 
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So we all know JC's names carries hella water in the college basketball community. Young guns want to play for top coaches at top programs. IMO JC was kinda loosin touch with his players over the last couple years. Ya we won in 2011 but most of those dudes comin to Storrs were the work of our asst's ...mainly KO. JC carried the name. Was oriahki a clown? ya prob but he raised some flags when he dipped from storrs saying calhoun was a slave driver etc. We had so much talent this past year but them dudes didn't want to play for JC anymore. As an outsider lookin in, there seemed to be some bad blood in that lockerroom.

KO is definitely gonna be a players coach. He relates to the kids. I think he's gonna do wonders for recruiting. JC put us on the map and built us the reputation as one of the top programs out there. For that we'll always be thankful, but im more than ready for KO to get his ass on the R trail and bring us some of the best ballers out there. Get it in KO cuz its your time to shine.
i know these are strange times, but this passes as a serious post?
 
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You can bet Kevin Ollie is going to be on the phone tonight with some recruits who had crossed UConn off the list.

KO has been killing it on the recruiting trail. He managed to get the last two without JC even being on campus!

Game preparation and halftime adjustments -- nobody can replace JC in those departments. But if anyone can come close, maybe it's Kevin Ollie and a bunch of other guys who all played for JC.
You bring up an interesting point. There might be some recruits who have or had some interest in UConn and were impressed with KO but were skittish about coming here because of the uncertainty of JC's return to the sideline. There might even be some recruits who felt they couldn’t play for a tough love coach like JC that might now consider UConn due to Ollie’s temperament. I’ve always thought over the years that there are many kids that just can’t play for a tough coach like JC. We’ve seen a handful of players who simply couldn’t handle JC’s harsh correction and leave the program.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m all for coaches that hold their players accountable for what is expected on the court. JC sometimes did cross the line IMO. For example I never liked it when he would march deep into the court angrily and escort a player to the bench. You don’t have to humiliate a player in front of a packed house and TV audience. Some of his players handled it fine and others no so much. Bazz stands out as one of those players who had no problems with it. He’d take that face full of spit, keep his mouth shut, and sit down. Others like Edzilla and Jamal Coombs-McDaniel, couldn’t seem to keep their mouths shut and just listen and learn. They always seemed to have some sort of excuse. To play for JC, you have to simply take it and learn even if you think you had a good reason for what happened. I’ve seen times where JC would chew out a kid when the play that broke down wasn’t their fault, but the fault of a teammate who blew their assignment leaving the player exposed. But regardless, the ones that simply took it and learned, were the ones who had a long career after UConn.

Getting back to Nomar’s point, it will be interesting to see if some of those recruits that showed interest but cooled on UConn, show renewed interest as a result of Ollie taking over. Also, I wonder if he will have any success winning some interest with recruits that we’re showing interest that might, now that he’s the head coach. I could see some recruits curious to find out more about him based on the rapport he’s been building with many recruits. We seem to see a lot of positive comments from recruits about how much they like KO, something you don’t see very often when it comes to assistant coaches.

I hope we don’t lose the two recruits that have already gave us a verbal. I assume that KO was a big part of their decision. I think we’ll find out soon if that’s the case or not. I have a feeling we’ll not only retain those two but add XRM and some other talented players.

Lastly, I wonder what the reaction is with the current players. I’m sure some such as Bazz, who’s very close with JC, and Omar, who seemed to come here because he wanted to learn from JC, must be quite distraught. I have a feeling that JC will come around the program often. If he hasn’t done so already, he’s going to meet with the team, but after that he’s probably going to give KO some room to establish himself. I’m sure those two will talk often, but he’s going to allow KO to connect to his team as the HC.

This is going to be a fascinating season. I moved to CT after JC took over the program. He’s the only UConn coach that I know. It will be interesting to see if KO can get his players to play as hard and as tough as JC did, a key characteristic of all his teams. As he often put it himself, UConn often won because they imposed their will or out-willed their opponent. Talent only gets you so far. To you a HC has to coach the talent out of each player, teach them to adopt and execute his system well and to instill mental and emotional toughness that results in his team coming out on top, especially in games where there is great adversity: bad officiating, playing an opponent that is playing out of their minds, overcoming a poor shooting night, injuries, foul trouble, etc. It is amazing how many talented teams find themselves losing close games and coming up one or two plays short. The ones that have learned to out-will their opponent are the ones that found a way to make that one to two extra plays. The 2011 NC team led by Kemba is the perfect example of one that out-willed their opponent night after night. We witnessed that 11 games in a row. Hopefully Ollie is and/or will grow into an elite coach in all areas: player development, team development, game preparation, in-game adjustments, motivation, etc. Although I don’t see him as a screamer, I think he’s going to be a good one who will get the most out of his players. Knowing that he was an overachiever who knew he had to work harder than the next guy to succeed in the NBA, I can’t imagine he’s not going to excel at instilling the same in his players. He’s not your typical good guy that sometimes can’t get that extra out of his players. I think he’s going to be special. I just hope the program gives him a few years to prove it.
 

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This needed to happen and the time is right. still is it weird for me to have tears in my eyes? I miss the old SOB already

I've fought them off, but the presser is going to be hard.
 

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It is interesting, if a recruit cut UConn because Ollie wasn't coach in waiting, it stands to reason they would reconsider now that he is going to be named the coach.

Unless it was all bullsh!t
 

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You bring up an interesting point. There might be some recruits who have or had some interest in UConn and were impressed with KO but were skittish about coming here because of the uncertainty of JC's return to the sideline. There might even be some recruits who felt they couldn’t play for a tough love coach like JC that might now consider UConn due to Ollie’s temperament. I’ve always thought over the years that there are many kids that just can’t play for a tough coach like JC. We’ve seen a handful of players who simply couldn’t handle JC’s harsh correction and leave the program.

Don’t get me wrong. I’m all for coaches that hold their players accountable for what is expected on the court. JC sometimes did cross the line IMO. For example I never liked it when he would march deep into the court angrily and escort a player to the bench. You don’t have to humiliate a player in front of a packed house and TV audience. Some of his players handled it fine and others no so much. Bazz stands out as one of those players who had no problems with it. He’d take that face full of spit, keep his mouth shut, and sit down. Others like Edzilla and Jamal Coombs-McDaniel, couldn’t seem to keep their mouths shut and just listen and learn. They always seemed to have some sort of excuse. To play for JC, you have to simply take it and learn even if you think you had a good reason for what happened. I’ve seen times where JC would chew out a kid when the play that broke down wasn’t their fault, but the fault of a teammate who blew their assignment leaving the player exposed. But regardless, the ones that simply took it and learned, were the ones who had a long career after UConn.

Getting back to Nomar’s point, it will be interesting to see if some of those recruits that showed interest but cooled on UConn, show renewed interest as a result of Ollie taking over. Also, I wonder if he will have any success winning some interest with recruits that we’re showing interest that might, now that he’s the head coach. I could see some recruits curious to find out more about him based on the rapport he’s been building with many recruits. We seem to see a lot of positive comments from recruits about how much they like KO, something you don’t see very often when it comes to assistant coaches.

I hope we don’t lose the two recruits that have already gave us a verbal. I assume that KO was a big part of their decision. I think we’ll find out soon if that’s the case or not. I have a feeling we’ll not only retain those two but add XRM and some other talented players.

Lastly, I wonder what the reaction is with the current players. I’m sure some such as Bazz, who’s very close with JC, and Omar, who seemed to come here because he wanted to learn from JC, must be quite distraught. I have a feeling that JC will come around the program often. If he hasn’t done so already, he’s going to meet with the team, but after that he’s probably going to give KO some room to establish himself. I’m sure those two will talk often, but he’s going to allow KO to connect to his team as the HC.

This is going to be a fascinating season. I moved to CT after JC took over the program. He’s the only UConn coach that I know. It will be interesting to see if KO can get his players to play as hard and as tough as JC did, a key characteristic of all his teams. As he often put it himself, UConn often won because they imposed their will or out-willed their opponent. Talent only gets you so far. To you a HC has to coach the talent out of each player, teach them to adopt and execute his system well and to instill mental and emotional toughness that results in his team coming out on top, especially in games where there is great adversity: bad officiating, playing an opponent that is playing out of their minds, overcoming a poor shooting night, injuries, foul trouble, etc. It is amazing how many talented teams find themselves losing close games and coming up one or two plays short. The ones that have learned to out-will their opponent are the ones that found a way to make that one to two extra plays. The 2011 NC team led by Kemba is the perfect example of one that out-willed their opponent night after night. We witnessed that 11 games in a row. Hopefully Ollie is and/or will grow into an elite coach in all areas: player development, team development, game preparation, in-game adjustments, motivation, etc. Although I don’t see him as a screamer, I think he’s going to be a good one who will get the most out of his players. Knowing that he was an overachiever who knew he had to work harder than the next guy to succeed in the NBA, I can’t imagine he’s not going to excel at instilling the same in his players. He’s not your typical good guy that sometimes can’t get that extra out of his players. I think he’s going to be special. I just hope the program gives him a few years to prove it.
Great post Dog. Good points about recruits, current players and KO. Thanks.
 
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