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JaYnYcE said:
Jazz's daughter deserves a better life, I can't blame the family at all.
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Yup. I would be happy to see them settle out of court and see her have a comfortable life.
 
Could you imagine the state of this board if the case goes to trial and Randy Edsall is on the witness stand testifying against UConn!?:eek:

I think I would have to take a vacation from this board that week...that would be ugly!
 
fortebleedsblue said:
Unless your a Kardashian since when does it cost $5 million to raise one child? I'm curious your take on this one.
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It's a fair point and I don't really have an answer.
 
I'm not advocating cutting a $5mil check. I'm just saying that, in the same situation with a child to take care of, I'd explore all options to take care of that child as well as possible. Courts will obviously decide if there is any merit. And I'd be shocked if, at the end of the day, any sort of settlement barely sniffs $5mil.
 
I'm not naive enough to think there might not be a money grab aspect as well. It's a possibility. But I'm not going to jump to any conclusions.
 
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fortebleedsblue said:
Unless your a Kardashian since when does it cost $5 million to raise one child? I'm curious your take on this one.
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With the coming Economic Collapse, and high probability of Hyper-Inflation coming they should ask for the settlement monies (should it be awarded) to be paid in Gold because in a few years (or less) the dollar won't be worth the paper it's printed on.
 
FDNY99 said:
Basically an admission it was inadequate before no?
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No. You can always make anything safer, but the fact that someone wants to do so does not mean that they were negligent in not making it more safe earlier. UConn could guaranty safety on campus by closing the University and not every allowing a human being on what is now the campus. So what?
 
Prior to 1989 I settled federal tort claims for an entity of the federal government. If a settlement could not be reached, the case went to trial in district court--no jury, no punitive damages. Whether I settled them or the judge did, results were usually fair and amount of damages reasonable. It was and is the federal equivalent of the state procedure. Usually it's the little details that we're probably not privy to that determine the result. Based on my limited knowledge of what happened and various responsibilities (remember the guard company is being sued also) the state probably would want to settle this in the several hundred thousand dollar range. Just a thought though I personally would deny the claim.
 
Look i guarantee you his parents phones are ringing off the hook with lawyers that want a new boat. Each and every one of us will succumb to money period.
 
businesslawyer said:
No. You can always make anything safer, but the fact that someone wants to do so does not mean that they were negligent in not making it more safe earlier. UConn could guaranty safety on campus by closing the University and not every allowing a human being on what is now the campus. So what?
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Just asking a question...don't get huffy. Found the info I got from guys who interact with the students on a regular basis very interesting. I can remember being at a party at the infamous x lot in the 90's getting pelted by bottles as we treated a severe head laceration.
 
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Srqhusky said:
Look i guarantee you his parents phones are ringing off the hook with lawyers that want a new boat. Each and every one of us will succumb to money period.
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Yes, blame the lawyers. Do you really believe attorney's were calling them? Really? Do you think their current attorney called them?

I love how people blame the lawyers for everything.
 
Devland said:
So if someone murders someone in my yard, I am responsible and not the person that committed the murder? If it was about money to raise the child wouldn't the baby's mother sue and not Jaspers parents? Unfortunately it looks like another a case of someone trying to win the lottery through litagation.
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That's not comparable at all. Your house is your own private property, and you're not obligated to protect anyone who's there without your permission - the same is not the case for a public, state-run university.

I might be misremembering facts, but I think one of the complaints is that there was only 1 cop monitoring the event. That could be a factor if the judge/courts decide that wasn't sufficient enough security.
 
huskysupporter said:
Yes, blame the lawyers. Do you really believe attorney's were calling them? Really? Do you think their current attorney called them?

I love how people blame the lawyers for everything.
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Certainly probable that an attorney encouraged this action.

It will never go to trial so file a complaint, negotiate a settlement and take what 25% - 35% of the settlement on contingency. Probably a $250k to $500k settlement if I had to guess. So the math would suggest that many a litigator would be motivated to take that on.
 
huskysupporter said:
Yes, blame the lawyers. Do you really believe attorney's were calling them? Really? Do you think their current attorney called them?

I love how people blame the lawyers for everything.
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Uhhhh... I would say w/ about 60% certainty that they were contacted by an attorney!
 
60 percent of the time... it works every time.
 
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I love this country. But I absolutely hate the mentality of people in this country that are so quick to try to grab a "payday". And , I hate worse the courts complicity in these scenarios.

Losing a son (a child) is tragic and absolutely devastating. This particular situation was made even more despicable by the circumstances - it was so very senseless. However, reading the accounts of what occurred that night, one has to ask the question - how many separate instances were there for #6 to "walk away" from trouble that evening? Walk away, walk away, walk away and say absolutely nothing. Not worth it, too much to lose and that goes without saying even if this had not played out as tragically as it did.

So - at the risk of being grossly insensitive - I'll cite Jim Calhoun on this one: "Not one dime!".
 
We'll have to wait and hear the facts, but my gut says the same thing. UConn should only be liable if they were negligent or facilitated the crime. The mere fact that a crime occurred is proof of neither. The next step will be to sue every time someone gets mugged on a public sidewalk or in a public park. We are ultimately responsible for our own safety and well-being - not some government agency. It seems desirable to blame some higher power, preferably one with money, but at the end of the day the one responsible for this heinous act is the guy with the knife, not UConn. If we want a society where our colleges and public buildings are shut off from the public then promote lawsuits like this one. Should every campus building and event have metal detectors? Should cars be searched going in and out? That's not a campus, that's a prison.
 
huskysupporter said:
Yes, blame the lawyers. Do you really believe attorney's were calling them? Really? Do you think their current attorney called them?

I love how people blame the lawyers for everything.
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I believe a Boatload of lawyers called them, unsolicited. Shoot, Ive gotten a speeding ticket and within a couple of days had received 6 letters from law offices offering help me get fight it, unsolicited.. So ya, I think some lawyers called the family after their son was murdered at a state universities function.

I'm not saying the family wouldnt have gotten there themselves, but I'll wager whatever you want that lawyers reached out to the family
 
i doubt UConn will have much, if any liability, especially considering the event happened outside. if UConn is found liable i imagine there's insurance to handle this type of thing. I imagine that was part of the lawyer's sales pitch, that they're only collecting money from an insurance company, not the school. it's amazing how easily people's conscience will allow them to fleece money from an insurance company.
 
Excalibur said:
I can understand why they chose to sue, but if the University decides to defend the case, it will win.
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And take a chance of harming it's reputation and undoing all the good done post murder. If UCONN can't get a Judge to throw the suit out, there has to be a settlement. This is a "rock-and-hard-place" nightmare.
 
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I am sure UConn will do whatever serves the best purpose for the school financially. If they can settle for less than what may be a lengthy trial, then that is what they will do as a business decision. If they settle for $1M and the trial would have cost more than that, then they will just pay and get it over with. $1M-$2M to UConn is not worth any bad press or the headaches surrounding a case like this.

On the flip side it could be also be a negative to the Howard family if they went to trial. Odds are that they would have to try and build uncertainty in Jazz's character. As someone mentioned in a prior post they will say he had several chances to walk away and did not. Not sure what/if they can dig up any past issues with him, but these types of trials can get nasty in regards to what is brought up in court. Look at the Sandusky trial as an example, although a very different animal in nature. These plaintiff's that claim they were abused as kids by Sandusky are going to be put through a very tough process with the defense calling out their character, digging up negative personal info not related to the Sandusky abuse and being called gold diggers in a claim that they are only coming forward to file a large civil suit. Point being is that morals can sometimes be thrown out the door when talking about millions of dollars.
 
i could be wrong, but i think it's often the insurance company's call on whether to settle.
 
SAMCRO said:
I believe a Boatload of lawyers called them, unsolicited. Shoot, Ive gotten a speeding ticket and within a couple of days had received 6 letters from law offices offering help me get fight it, unsolicited.. So ya, I think some lawyers called the family after their son was murdered at a state universities function.

I'm not saying the family wouldnt have gotten there themselves, but I'll wager whatever you want that lawyers reached out to the family
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What state did you receive letters from attorneys regarding a speeding ticket? I am assuming not CT. An attorney has no way of knowing who received a speeding ticket.

And I would venture to guess that no lawyer reached out to the family. It is another perception of attorneys that is unwarranted, IMO.
 
mattp said:
i doubt UConn will have much, if any liability, especially considering the event happened outside. if UConn is found liable i imagine there's insurance to handle this type of thing. I imagine that was part of the lawyer's sales pitch, that they're only collecting money from an insurance company, not the school. it's amazing how easily people's conscience will allow them to fleece money from an insurance company.
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The incident still happened on school property, the fact that it was outside would have little impact on the suit.
 
huskysupporter said:
The incident still happened on school property, the fact that it was outside would have little impact on the suit.
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i think any judge or jury would agree it's unreasonable to be expected to keep an entire campus on permanent lock down and free of weapons, whereas if it happened in a building a metal detector could have been preventative. i think it makes a big difference
 
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