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Message: [QUOTE="husky429, post: 4512572, member: 6696"] I was wondering if you'd pop back up with more goalpost changing. Let's recall your original statement, shall we? This is the only point I ever argued, and for some reason you keep doubling down and changing the goalpost. Did you think I forgot? 1) Our coach said Hopkins was the better talent "tonight." That doesn't mean he think he's "considerably better" than everyone on our roster. It doesn't even mean he thinks he's just "better" than everyone on our roster. It means exactly what he said: he was better tonight. That is an accurate statement. 2) Even if PC has a decent record by the BET and Hopkins wins POY, that still doesn't mean he is "considerably better" than anyone on our roster. I'm wondering if you understand the word "considerably." I'll throw in the definition to help you out: [I]adverb[/I] by a notably large amount or to a notably large extent; greatly Feel free to scroll through every post I've made on this subject: I've never said Hopkins isn't a good player, or even a worse player than Hawkins or Sanogo. He probably deserves BE POY, and certainly will be First Team if they give it to a player whose team has a better record. That doesn't change the fact that Hopkins is not "considerably better" than our best players. Let's look at Hawkins's, Sanogo's, and Hopkins's per 40 stats, shall we? Let's keep in mind that our strength of schedule is, in fact, "considerably better" than PCs at this point (6.18 vs 3.45). Conference-only stats aren't available yet on the site I use because of limited # of games. [B]Hawkins: [/B] 22.0/5.5/2.1 (41/39/85%). 1.4 STL, 0.7 BLK, 1.9 TO. 3.1 PF. ORTG: 121 (higher is better) DRTG: 94 (lower is better) [B]Sanogo: [/B]26.6/11.0/2.0 (59/37/77%). 1.3 STL. 1.1 BLK. 3.0 TO. 4.3 PF. ORTG: 121 DRTG: 90 [B]Hopkins: [/B]19.6/10.9/2.7 (49/37/74%) 0.9 STL. 0.6 BLKS. 3.2 TO. 2.8 PF. ORTG: 115 DRTG: 98 Can you please point out to me where the "considerably better" player is here? Not your eye test, or some quote that only half-way proves your point from a month ago. Real, objective statistics. Who is the considerably better player? After drudging up a weeks-old post, I'd hope you had a slam dunk and not this soft and-1 at the rim. At least make it fun if you're going to argue about semantics dude. [/QUOTE]

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