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Message: [QUOTE="BlueMAB, post: 2410461, member: 920"] I didn't say it was okay to do it in the summer. In fact I said it was still a stupid thing to do. Leaving your kid in the car is a stupid thing to do. Leaving your kid in the car in 100 degree heat is an astonishingly stupid thing to do. The use of the word is simply a way to differentiate the behavior due to the timing (or temperature). Am I surprised he was racing a scooter? No. Am I greatly surprised that he was doing it the night before the season starts? Astonishingly so. He didn't use the word "leader" once in his post. Why would you use it 4 times to create a strawman? It's not his leadership at issue. It's his judgment. Considering you've created one straw man, and misrepresented my position, it seems like you're arguing for the sake of arguing. [/QUOTE]