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High bar for a floor, as a highly productive starter on an NC isn’t too shabby. Also hard to determine much from a short video of a couple 3s and a couple takes to the rim against Aussie players. You can make anyone look good screening out 5 positive plays.
I watched 2 full games in the U18 Asian Cup. Posted about and linked on page 2 of the original Furphy thread
 
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High bar for a floor, as a highly productive starter on an NC isn’t too shabby. Also hard to determine much from a short video of a couple 3s and a couple takes to the rim against Aussie players. You can make anyone look good screening out 5 positive plays. I guess I’m not sure why more schools weren’t in on him. If the international piece limits impact on NIL, and he’s good, would seem golden. I’m tempering expectations as from a roster construction perspective and recruiting dynamic, feels like a LT development piece. None of these videos offer any sense how he’d look against US hoopsters, and playing the Mongolian national team isn’t exactly the Celtics. IQ is massive, but you also need some athleticism.

If he’s coming this direction with up to 7 guards in front of him between returners and higher priority recruits, he’s coming anticipating not playing year one.
He'll likely be competing with 4 guards for playing time.

He's going to play year 1. When I saw him visit UConn I was worried it meant we weren't getting Mullins who I love. Getting both Mullins and Furphy along with Adams is just awesome recruiting by Hurley and staff.

Furphy is really good. The only thing he's lacking is top shelf athleticism. He's wildly efficent and just knows how to play. Top 50 kid if he played over here. My guess is Illinois was his only other offer because folks knew he was set on UConn.




 
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I think Ball is likely to be gone, so five 40% 3 pt shooters rotating thru three spots seems plausible. I think DH wants more 3's.
 
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Giffey was already very high IQ defensively as a freshman, he moved exceptionally well laterally for a 6-7 guy without hops. "Worst Case" Giffey just sounds like a crazy high floor to me haha, but I'm quite excited about Furphy regardless.

Without hops? We thinking about the same Niels?
 
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I think Ball is likely to be gone, so five 40% 3 pt shooters rotating thru three spots seems plausible. I think DH wants more 3's.

Are we getting a bit ahead of ourselves with Solo leaving? If he plays every game like URI maybe there’s a shot but let’s let him get his season going, the Maui the Big East before we take him from 8-10 minutes a game as frosh to the NBA 1st round.
 
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Are we getting a bit ahead of ourselves with Solo leaving? If he plays every game like URI maybe there’s a shot but let’s let him get his season going, the Maui the Big East before we take him from 8-10 minutes a game as frosh to the NBA 1st round.
I think that's the plan with Solo. He was billed as a 2 and done and I think Solo and the staff have every intention on him being a 1st round draft pick
 
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Are we getting a bit ahead of ourselves with Solo leaving? If he plays every game like URI maybe there’s a shot but let’s let him get his season going, the Maui the Big East before we take him from 8-10 minutes a game as frosh to the NBA 1st round.
This is my feeling. Unless he's like 22ppg, 40+% from 3 and just dominating, its hard for me to see the NBA being Lottery-level excited about a 6'2/6'3 SG unless I'm really just misunderstanding the league right now...

if he shows some playmaking? I think that's really the key to him leaping up boards if he's projectable to the lead guard position...
 
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Hurley " we are done recruiting AMERICAN players". No one parses their words like that without an ace up their sleeve.
 
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I think Ball is likely to be gone, so five 40% 3 pt shooters rotating thru three spots seems plausible. I think DH wants more 3's.
Why does everyone think ball is gone after this year? Where is he going? Europe? I haven't seen an NBA player yet who can consistently play well. Let's see how he plays for at least half the season before touting this. I personally see more potential with Stewart due to his size and ability to score in multiple ways. I guess we will find out more as the season goes but I think Ball might stay around for another year. I know he has long reach for 6'3" but he isn't an elite shooter like Hawkins who can get off the ball super fast and hasn't shown yet to consistently be able to get the rim even though he is good athlete. I still feel his handle is not super tight from what I have seen.
 
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Are we getting a bit ahead of ourselves with Solo leaving? If he plays every game like URI maybe there’s a shot but let’s let him get his season going, the Maui the Big East before we take him from 8-10 minutes a game as frosh to the NBA 1st round.
People are getting ahead of themselves with any particular person other than the seniors leaving. Anyone gets nicked up (like McNeeley is for the second time) and their performance might be hampered enough to not move on.

That includes AK. He doesn't get better statistically and he isn't moving up draft boards based on being the same guy as last year, but older.
 
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High bar for a floor, as a highly productive starter on an NC isn’t too shabby. Also hard to determine much from a short video of a couple 3s and a couple takes to the rim against Aussie players. You can make anyone look good screening out 5 positive plays. I guess I’m not sure why more schools weren’t in on him. If the international piece limits impact on NIL, and he’s good, would seem golden. I’m tempering expectations as from a roster construction perspective and recruiting dynamic, feels like a LT development piece. None of these videos offer any sense how he’d look against US hoopsters, and playing the Mongolian national team isn’t exactly the Celtics. IQ is massive, but you also need some athleticism.

If he’s coming this direction with up to 7 guards in front of him between returners and higher priority recruits, he’s coming anticipating not playing year one.

Furphy was selected, as a junior, to be a part of the Basketball Without Borders camp which is kind of the elite "world" basketball showcase. Maluach from Duke, Riley and Jakucionis from Illinois, and Nolan Traore, who many here were fiending over, were also there. The previous year there were three lottery picks who were chosen to play in this showcase. Furphy won the sportsmanship award and was lauded for his "shooting, BBIQ, and connecting playmaking."


Furphy is not a "low-major" or long-term development player. Giffey was not as accomplished internationally as Furphy and we have a couple of "experts" saying he is a stud. Yes it's sometimes hard to gauge when viewing some of the comp but you can see that he absolutely "knows" how to play. The numbers also back up that he is a serious talent.

Here's Taj Gibson being "blown away" by Furphy at another camp.
 
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Furphy was selected, as a junior to be a part of the Basketball Without Borders camp which is kind of the elite "world" basketball showcase. Maluach from Duke, Riley and Jakucionis from Illinois, and Nolan Traore, who many here were fiending over, were also there. The previous year there were three lottery picks who were chosen to play in this showcase. Furphy won the sportsmanship award and was lauded for his "shooting, BBIQ, and connecting playmaking."


Furphy is not a "low-major" or long-term development player. Giffey was not as accomplished internationally as Furphy and we have a couple of "experts" saying he is a stud. Yes it's sometimes hard to gauge when viewing some of the comp but you can see that he absolutely "knows" how to play. The numbers also back up that he is a serious talent.

Here's Taj Gibson being "blown away" by Furphy at another camp.
Great intel - thanks for sharing. My hunch officially swung.
 
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Why does everyone think ball is gone after this year? Where is he going? Europe? I haven't seen an NBA player yet who can consistently play well. Let's see how he plays for at least half the season before touting this. I personally see more potential with Stewart due to his size and ability to score in multiple ways. I guess we will find out more as the season goes but I think Ball might stay around for another year. I know he has long reach for 6'3" but he isn't an elite shooter like Hawkins who can get off the ball super fast and hasn't shown yet to consistently be able to get the rim even though he is good athlete. I still feel his handle is not super tight from what I have seen.
Who was the last player Hurley hyped up pre season that flopped? He's gonna take the Hurely sophmore jump and be in first round mock drafts. I'll take some bets..
 
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This feels like a high-reward recruitment with little risk because of the limited NIL opportunities for foreigners and the extra scholarships available. The competition he's played against isn't great, his athleticism is questionable, but his skill level is insane for his age. He could end up Cam Spencer or be the 11th guy for 4 years, and I'm not sure I'd be surprised by any of it.
 
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if furphy is as good as some claim, then the tea leaves seem to be saying solo is going pro after this season. the hype is real.
 

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Great intel - thanks for sharing. My hunch officially swung.

I'm bullish on him. I don't know why he apparently was only deciding between us and Illinois. Both are great programs, but why didn't he take any other visits (that we know about)? I doubt very much it was a lack of interest from college programs.
 
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This feels like a high-reward recruitment with little risk because of the limited NIL opportunities for foreigners and the extra scholarships available. The competition he's played against isn't great, his athleticism is questionable, but his skill level is insane for his age. He could end up Cam Spencer or be the 11th guy for 4 years, and I'm not sure I'd be surprised by any of it.
Based on the clips that were posted, he might not be an elite athlete, but he looks more athletic than Cam. I don't recall Cam, or even Newton, dunking often or at all, while Furphy had a couple dunks late in those clips. Even at 6-4, flushing one during a game doesn't happen unless you have some solid level of athleticism.

He'd be fine here if teamed with 1 to 2 more athletic perimeter players. Hurley teaches solid team D. Granted, if you have too many moderate to low end athletes that lack quickness, that can be exposed by well coached athletic teams. Look at last season. They defended pretty good with Cam and Newton in the game, though having Castle or Has, and/or Stewart on the floor, and Clingan cleaning up inside when things broke down, helped tighten the D.

On offense, he'd fit right in, though his game does seem to have some redundancy with Adams. They both have very similar scoring abilities, especially the catch and shoot off of multi-acton, though Furphy seems to handle the ball more, initiate the offense and create his own shot, where Adams seems to be developing a catch, curl and drive game to compliment his deep catch a shoot. They both seem crafty creating space for their 3-ball when they do catch the ball.

I always find it fascinating that many college and pro ballers don't know how to create space and knock 'em down. For at college level, Cam was exception at that. At the pro level, Brown and Tatum of the C's are very good at that, to name a few. There are many others in the NBA who are good at it, though it's just surprising more haven't developed that at that next level. I'm sure those who do have been coached well and have worked their asses off developing those skills.
 
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Based on the clips that were posted, he might not be an elite athlete, but he looks more athletic than Cam. I don't recall Cam, or even Newton, dunking often or at all, while Furphy had a couple dunks late in those clips. Even at 6-4, flushing one during a game doesn't happen unless you have some solid level of athleticism.

He'd be fine here if teamed with 1 to 2 more athletic perimeter players. Hurley teaches solid team D. Granted, if you have too many moderate to low end athletes that lack quickness, that can be exposed by well coached athletic teams. Look at last season. They defended pretty good with Cam and Newton in the game, though having Castle or Has, and/or Stewart on the floor, and Clingan cleaning up inside when things broke down, helped tighten the D.

On offense, he'd fit right in, though his game does seem to have some redundancy with Adams. They both have very similar scoring abilities, especially the catch and shoot off of multi-acton, though Furphy seems to handle the ball more, initiate the offense and create his own shot, where Adams seems to be developing a catch, curl and drive game to compliment his deep catch a shoot. They both seem crafty creating space for their 3-ball when they do catch the ball.

I always find it fascinating that many college and pro ballers don't know how to create space and knock 'em down. For at college level, Cam was exception at that. At the pro level, Brown and Tatum of the C's are very good at that, to name a few. There are many others in the NBA who are good at it, though it's just surprising more haven't developed that at that next level. I'm sure those who do have been coached well and have worked their asses off developing those skills.

Tristen was a better vertical athlete than he let on.

But your point is true. Skill is the difference-maker in college more than athleticism. Hard to find the court if you're an athlete without skill on a UConn team. You can be a difference-maker--even if it's a bench role--if you have the skill.
 
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I'm bullish on him. I don't know why he apparently was only deciding between us and Illinois. Both are great programs, but why didn't he take any other visits (that we know about)? I doubt very much it was a lack of interest from college
Yeah and I mean Illinois is a good program, but if he’s as good as advertised you might think a few other tier 1s would be sniffing around given the advantages. Perhaps a couple west coast teams prone to think internationally. Maybe he likes coaches that go shirtless and use water guns.

Separately Big10 doesn’t have one top 50 kid signed yet. McKenna to UM might be the first, it’s been a rough cycle for that conference.
 

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I'm bullish on him. I don't know why he apparently was only deciding between us and Illinois. Both are great programs, but why didn't he take any other visits (that we know about)? I doubt very much it was a lack of interest from college programs.
I think he wanted to commit after our visit but we made him wait. He had the Illinois visit set up before our visit. Now he’s just waiting for us to give him the final call, the other schools probably know what’s up.
 
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Separately Big10 doesn’t have one top 50 kid signed yet. McKenna to UM might be the first, it’s been a rough cycle for that conference.
That's crazy. Remember 4 weeks ago when posters on here were complaining that UConn hadn't had a commitment yet? Who were those worry warts anyway?
 
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NBA Global Academy Technical Director Marty Clarke on Furphy at 16 two years ago:

"What Jacob brings is an understanding of how to be a pro...what we usually have to teach here, he already has," referring to drive, maturity, polish, BB IQ, and team-oriented attitude.
Is that the Marty Clarke from England and BC, who started on the Jay Murphy/John Bagley teams?
 
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Giffey was already very high IQ defensively as a freshman, he moved exceptionally well laterally for a 6-7 guy without hops. "Worst Case" Giffey just sounds like a crazy high floor to me haha, but I'm quite excited about Furphy regardless.
LOL. We've come so far, and are so full of ourselves, that bringing in a kid to win 2 championships in 4 years is no longer good enough!!
 

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Is that the Marty Clarke from England and BC, who started on the Jay Murphy/John Bagley teams?
On BC's 1982 final four team, Clarke (I also wonder if it's the same guy) was their only starter who wasn't from Connecticut. Sadly Perno did not offer any of the four (Garris, Murphy, Bagley, Adams) a scholarship.
 
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