Ivy League Football to FCS Post-Season Play in 2025

[DoctorWho85]

I think a lot of people have never been, myself included

I always wanted to, but UConn comes first and never had the chance. Now I don't even live in CT anymore. Hopefully Yale plays NDSU or UND as stated above.

 

[Rich]

One half of one percent of that is 15 million. Certainly far less than their investment returns. Also double what AAC teams get from ESPN. That doesn't mean Yale would consider football a great investment as that money goes into a variety of academic and capital projects.

Overview of Yale’s Endowment

www.yale.edu

If you add up the collective endowments of Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Penn they could easily buy every single blue chip rated recruit each year.

Now that would be funny as hell. I can only imagine the caterwauling from the SEC and B10 schools.

 

[tiger paw]

I doubt if IVY's would ever lower / comprise their academic standards. The pool of acceptable candidates would remain very small. No 5th year (grad students) allowed. No red shirting except for injury. Incoming players academic rating must be equal to that of the rest of the incoming freshman class. They are held to a high standard. No exceptions. Very difficult to compete at FBS level within these guidelines. Ivy's always stick together. Y-H-P (Big 3) would never separate themselves out from the rest of the league.

 

[LoyalFanCT]

I doubt if IVY's would ever lower / comprise their academic standards. The pool of acceptable candidates would remain very small. No 5th year (grad students) allowed. No red shirting except for injury. Incoming players academic rating must be equal to that of the rest of the incoming freshman class. They are held to a high standard. No exceptions. Very difficult to compete at FBS level within these guidelines. Ivy's always stick together. Y-H-P (Big 3) would never separate themselves out from the rest of the league.

Don't be so sure. The Ivy League only began in the 1950s and it may be time for some of the schools to get more engaged with football. Don't kid yourself that football players have to meet the same academic standards as the rest of the Ivy League applicants. A few might but over the years many didn't.

 

[ZooCougar]

If you add up the collective endowments of Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Penn they could easily buy every single blue chip rated recruit each year.

Now that would be funny as hell. I can only imagine the caterwauling from the SEC and B10 schools.

The Ivies could buy every SEC School over brunch, burp and then buy the Sun Belt and the ACC for the hell of it.

 

[Vowelguy]

One thing's for sure, if it comes down to the Ivys have an absolute NIL advantage.....Yale's endowment is ~30 billion.

So?
That money is already being used for lots of things; FB ain’t moving to the top of the list.

 

[Vowelguy]

Don't be so sure. The Ivy League only began in the 1950s and it may be time for some of the schools to get more engaged with football. Don't kid yourself that football players have to meet the same academic standards as the rest of the Ivy League applicants. A few might but over the years many didn't.

I don’t if this is still in effect but they used to have to report the SAT scores of the players, and it could only be a certain percent below the SAT scores of general students.

 

[Rich]

So?
That money is already being used for lots of things; FB ain’t moving to the top of the list.

LOL I know you're not serious......the CAGR on those endowments is between 8-10% per annum, 100% tax free.

They don't have a problem with competing priorities so much as they have a 'Brewster's Millions' problem. Also the endowments EXCLUDE special alumni 'gifts' earmarked for specific projects like facilities improvements etc.

My point stands. They could buy every 5 star recruit each year with the Gomez Adams petty cash the CIO has lying around. And the returns to the xchool on that investment would be immense. Just depends if they want to get their hands dirty with the bread and circuses of the Common Man.

 

[temery]

Title IX would prevent any school from funding NIL for just fb.

 

[Vowelguy]

LOL I know you're not serious......the CAGR on those endowments is between 8-10% per annum, 100% tax free.

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Yes, and they have that money earmarked for things — salaries, financial aid, tuition subsidy, upkeep — It’s not going unused and could be simply applied to FB.

Yes they could decide FB is more important than some things. But it’s not simple.

 

[FfldCntyFan]

Aside from the (alleged) rule that a school cannot pay NIL money, the earnings on endowments remain tax free only if they are used for student aid (it's been that way for more than a decade and a half).

Additionally, in most cases, endowed funds (not earnings on said funds) are earmarked for specific purposes. There isn't really a path for say Princeton, Yale or Harvard to take $15 million or so of endowed funds a put together a football team to compete with the top of the SEC or B1G.

I also would be surprised if any true decision makers at any Ivy League school would be interested enough in having a national championship football program in the 21st century that they would be in favor of raiding the school's endowment to chase a title.

 

[Vowelguy]

Aside from the (alleged) rule that a school cannot pay NIL money, the earnings on endowments remain tax free only if they are used for student aid (it's been that way for more than a decade and a half).

Additionally, in most cases, endowed funds (not earnings on said funds) are earmarked for specific purposes. There isn't really a path for say Princeton, Yale or Harvard to take $15 million or so of endowed funds a put together a football team to compete with the top of the SEC or B1G.

I also would be surprised if any true decision makers at any Ivy League school would be interested enough in having a national championship football program in the 21st century that they would be in favor of raiding the school's endowment to chase a title.

Exactly