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[AJC88]

right. and roscoe left because he wanted minutes at the 3. at this point, we are losing quality players not gaining them. whatever calhoun is saying must be working.....right?

Umm the state player of the year for New York isn't a quality recruit? I don't like to insult people on message boards but you sir are coming off as a moron.

 

[Excalibur]

You are correct - no good coaches are coming here because they all want to go to Va Tech (sarcasm)

I'm talking about timing. It seems that you and others want to have him leave now and try to find a legitimate coach in late April, which only increases uncertainty at the end of the recruiting year and probably gets us a less qualified in-game coach.

 

[upstater]

when daniels, drummond, & boatright came, calhoun had 3 years left and the entire landscape was far more optimistic. i am pretty sure all 3 of those kids felt that they were 1 and done or 2. my guess is none of them expected to be in storrs after calhoun left.

Where are you coming up with this 3 years left stuff? You're talking about the contract? Seriously? Boatright thought he was a one or two year max player? Omar Calhoun too?

I mean, you're out to lunch.

 

[djct1999]

out to lunch? what am i making up? when drummond, daniels, and boatright signed, did calhoun not have 3 years left on his deal. do you think for one minute that any of these three players viewed themselves as a 4 year player and would eventually play for someone other than calhoun. you are dillusional. again, if you think for once an incoming recruit is not concerned about calhouns tenure and who will be the next coach then you simply dont get the recruiting process.

 

[AJC88]

out to lunch? what am i making up? when drummond, daniels, and boatright signed, did calhoun not have 3 years left on his deal. do you think for one minute that any of these three players viewed themselves as a 4 year player and would eventually play for someone other than calhoun. you are dillusional. again, if you think for once an incoming recruit is not concerned about calhouns tenure and who will be the next coach then you simply dont get the recruiting process.

What we all clearly lack in understanding the recruiting process, you lack in reading comprehension skills. People have been negatively recruiting against Calhoun for YEARS saying that players won't play for him yada yada yada. You're making this sound like a new phenomenon. LAST YEAR HE DIDN'T SAY HE WAS COMING BACK UNTIL SEPTEMBER. If there was ever a chance he was going to retire, it was LAST YEAR. Yet, UConn lands one of its best recruiting classes ever.
My point- Just because he does not go to the media and tell them "Hey guys, I will be back this year", does not mean he will not. He is out recruiting RIGHT NOW. He's coming back, its pretty clear.

 

[djct1999]

What we all clearly lack in understanding the recruiting process, you lack in reading comprehension skills. People have been negatively recruiting against Calhoun for YEARS saying that players won't play for him yada yada yada. You're making this sound like a new phenomenon. LAST YEAR HE DIDN'T SAY HE WAS COMING BACK UNTIL SEPTEMBER. If there was ever a chance he was going to retire, it was LAST YEAR. Yet, UConn lands one of its best recruiting classes ever.
My point- Just because he does not go to the media and tell them "Hey guys, I will be back this year", does not mean he will not. He is out recruiting RIGHT NOW. He's coming back, its pretty clear.

i am not sure what you comprehend, sir...i mean moron.

 

[AJC88]

i am not sure what you comprehend, sir...i mean moron.

Good reply. Someone pokes holes in your entire argument and you reply with "moron".
But please, educate us all on how "the recruiting game works". I'm sure your ideas are far more based in reality than my experiences from befriending, and spending an enormous amount of time with recent football and basketball players and asking questions about how the process works. So, here's your chance, educate us.

 

[djct1999]

Good reply. Someone pokes holes in your entire argument and you reply with "moron".
But please, educate us all on how "the recruiting game works". I'm sure your ideas are far more based in reality than my experiences from befriending, and spending an enormous amount of time with recent football and basketball players and asking questions about how the process works. So, here's your chance, educate us.

first, you havent poked a hole in anything, you started with the name calling. whats the point of a message board if everyone is simply going to agree and be "yes" people? as far as the recruiting process works, i guess i dont need to educate a so called expert. i assume you are the only one with football and basketball "friends".

 

[AJC88]

first, you havent poked a hole in anything, you started with the name calling. whats the point of a message board if everyone is simply going to agree and be "yes" people? as far as the recruiting process works, i guess i dont need to educate a so called expert. i assume you are the only one with football and basketball "friends".

Not saying that I am an expert at all. You keep saying that you know how the recruiting process works and we don't, so teach me what I didn't learn from, yes, my friends, who were athletes. Did I say one of your earlier posts was moronic? Yup, and I stand by that statement, because you just keep saying the same thing over and over without actually acknowledging that the same arguments have been made against UConn for years.
This is your chance, the forum is yours, teach us about the recruiting process.

 

[upstater]

out to lunch? what am i making up? when drummond, daniels, and boatright signed, did calhoun not have 3 years left on his deal. do you think for one minute that any of these three players viewed themselves as a 4 year player and would eventually play for someone other than calhoun. you are dillusional. again, if you think for once an incoming recruit is not concerned about calhouns tenure and who will be the next coach then you simply dont get the recruiting process.

You're out to lunch because you actually put credence in the length of deals. Calhoun is year-to-year and he has said as much repeatedly in the past. He was motivated to right right after the Final Four in 2008-2009. he just negotiated his current deal recently (it's less than 1 year old). You're the first and only person I've heard who thinks the length of his contract is a factor here at all. Calhoun has long said that he wants to retire soon. We heard about this stuff 4 or 5 years ago already. On the flip side, it's not like the school is going to push him out either if he doesn't have a contract. Do you honestly think people were worried last year when he didn't have a contract that the school would force him out? PLEASE!

 

[upstater]

What we all clearly lack in understanding the recruiting process, you lack in reading comprehension skills. People have been negatively recruiting against Calhoun for YEARS saying that players won't play for him yada yada yada. You're making this sound like a new phenomenon. LAST YEAR HE DIDN'T SAY HE WAS COMING BACK UNTIL SEPTEMBER. If there was ever a chance he was going to retire, it was LAST YEAR. Yet, UConn lands one of its best recruiting classes ever.
My point- Just because he does not go to the media and tell them "Hey guys, I will be back this year", does not mean he will not. He is out recruiting RIGHT NOW. He's coming back, its pretty clear.

I mean, you get it, a lot of other people get it, it's astounding that he doesn't get it.

 

[AJC88]

You're out to lunch because you actually put credence in the length of deals. Calhoun is year-to-year and he has said as much repeatedly in the past. He was motivated to right right after the Final Four in 2008-2009. he just negotiated his current deal recently (it's less than 1 year old). You're the first and only person I've heard who thinks the length of his contract is a factor here at all. Calhoun has long said that he wants to retire soon. We heard about this stuff 4 or 5 years ago already. On the flip side, it's not like the school is going to push him out either if he doesn't have a contract. Do you honestly think people were worried last year when he didn't have a contract that the school would force him out? PLEASE!

To further your point, he has also said he does not want to leave the program in bad shape.

 

[upstater]

first, you havent poked a hole in anything, you started with the name calling. whats the point of a message board if everyone is simply going to agree and be "yes" people? as far as the recruiting process works, i guess i dont need to educate a so called expert. i assume you are the only one with football and basketball "friends".

WOW! This is eye-opening. You say he was name-calling, and he said you lack reading comprehension. He criticized your skills, the same way you have repeatedly criticized my knowledge here. If you're going to engage in a conversation, you might consider refraining from doing things that get under your skin when someone criticizes you. Instead, you come back and call him a moron.

 

[djct1999]

WOW! This is eye-opening. You say he was name-calling, and he said you lack reading comprehension. He criticized your skills, the same way you have repeatedly criticized my knowledge here. If you're going to engage in a conversation, you might consider refraining from doing things that get under your skin when someone criticizes you. Instead, you come back and call him a moron.

it was a play on words from his previous post. if you can be condescending, you certainly should be able to understand hyperbole.

 

[AJC88]

it was a play on words from his previous post. if you can be condescending, you certainly should be able to understand hyperbole.

If you don't think that getting the gatorade player of the year from NY is a quality player, you're a moron. Sorry bud.

 

[HuskyBandDad]

I'm talking about timing. It seems that you and others want to have him leave now and try to find a legitimate coach in late April, which only increases uncertainty at the end of the recruiting year and probably gets us a less qualified in-game coach.

You misunderstood me - I was agreeing with you. I want Calhoun to stay as long as possible - 5 more years would be great. If he does decide to retire I hope he gives everyone as much time as possible to find a top quality coach. I also think Ollie would not be a bad choice from the recruiting side.

 

[freescooter]

I agree it is probably a little late in the year to replace him now, but not impossibly so (see VaTech). I want him to quietly let manuel know that he will step down at the end of 2013 so manuel can begin to quietly contact other coaches to guage their interest and ideally line up the replacement starting at the end of next season. At that point we can announce Calhoun's retirement, and that the new basketball training center will be known as the Calhoun Center. And starting on the first Tuesday in april Shaka Smart can begin his career as UCONN Head Basketball Coach.

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be shocked if Calhoun tried to force the choice of Ollie as his replacement by postponing his retirement announcement until July or August or even September when finding a replacement is really impossible. I really htink that picking his own replacement has become a poiint of pride with him, and we all know Calhoun doesn't give in on that kind of thing.

 

[HuskyBballFan]

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be shocked if Calhoun tried to force the choice of Ollie as his replacement by postponing his retirement announcement until July or August or even September when finding a replacement is really impossible. I really htink that picking his own replacement has become a poiint of pride with him, and we all know Calhoun doesn't give in on that kind of thing.

Well Warde Manuel is the man who gets to make that decision, no matter how hard Calhoun tries. If he waits until September and then retires, Ollie will probably get the Interim tag for this year with no promises beyond that. It will also undoubtedly make Manuel angry with Calhoun, which could ultimately be worse for Ollie in the long run.

 

[caw]

I agree it is probably a little late in the year to replace him now, but not impossibly so (see VaTech). I want him to quietly let manuel know that he will step down at the end of 2013 so manuel can begin to quietly contact other coaches to guage their interest and ideally line up the replacement starting at the end of next season. At that point we can announce Calhoun's retirement, and that the new basketball training center will be known as the Calhoun Center. And starting on the first Tuesday in april Shaka Smart can begin his career as UCONN Head Basketball Coach.

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be shocked if Calhoun tried to force the choice of Ollie as his replacement by postponing his retirement announcement until July or August or even September when finding a replacement is really impossible. I really htink that picking his own replacement has become a poiint of pride with him, and we all know Calhoun doesn't give in on that kind of thing.

Thing is, unless Blaney retires at the same time, the school would likely have Blaney as the head coach (assuming all the stuff you wrote) that year. Not saying that's what I would do, but...

 

[upstater]

Well Warde Manuel is the man who gets to make that decision, no matter how hard Calhoun tries. If he waits until September and then retires, Ollie will probably get the Interim tag for this year with no promises beyond that. It will also undoubtedly make Manuel angry with Calhoun, which could ultimately be worse for Ollie in the long run.

You know what would make Warde Manuel really angry? An angry President. You know what would make a President angry? Angry boosters, alumni and pols. You know what would make boosters, alumni and pols angry? Yep, neither do I.

 

[upstater]

I agree it is probably a little late in the year to replace him now, but not impossibly so (see VaTech). I want him to quietly let manuel know that he will step down at the end of 2013 so manuel can begin to quietly contact other coaches to guage their interest and ideally line up the replacement starting at the end of next season. At that point we can announce Calhoun's retirement, and that the new basketball training center will be known as the Calhoun Center. And starting on the first Tuesday in april Shaka Smart can begin his career as UCONN Head Basketball Coach.

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be shocked if Calhoun tried to force the choice of Ollie as his replacement by postponing his retirement announcement until July or August or even September when finding a replacement is really impossible. I really htink that picking his own replacement has become a poiint of pride with him, and we all know Calhoun doesn't give in on that kind of thing.

What is so great about Shaka Smart?

 

[Excalibur]

I hate to say it, but I wouldn't be shocked if Calhoun tried to force the choice of Ollie as his replacement by postponing his retirement announcement until July or August or even September when finding a replacement is really impossible. I really think that picking his own replacement has become a point of pride with him, and we all know Calhoun doesn't give in on that kind of thing.

I don't disagree with this. And I also agree that when it happens, be it at the end of this season or next, advance notice to the AD is critical.

 

[champs99and04]

You could literally change the date on this post to 4/25/10 and it would make just as much sense. I feel like people are too put off by the number 70. With the back surgery behind him, Calhoun's a healthy guy. Who says he couldn't coach until he was 75 if he wanted to? He clearly loves coaching, and he clearly loves the kids, that's why he hasn't retired yet. If Calhoun was 80, we could be having this discussion. But 70 is the new 60, right? My grandfather's 74 and he's about as active as anybody I know. Health granted, that fire in Calhoun's stomach won't be going away anytime soon.

Calhoun might retire now, but I doubt it. The guy has never met an obstacle he didn't want to challenge. He's not reading the Boneyard every day, but he's sees the usual knuckleheads writing the program off, the forecasters predicting mediocrity for years to come. He's not going to coach forever, but he's going to leave the program in a stable place.

DJ, if the last few months have taught you anything, it's that very few recruits plan on attending a single University for four years nowadays. If Calhoun walks into a recruits living room, shows them the trophies, shows them the famous wall or whatever it's called, and sells them on making a run in 2012 or 2013, why would they say no? Very few recruits these days go on tours thinking "Man, I'm going to want to play for a coach who will develop me over the course of four years". Nope. Recruits these days want immediate satisfaction. Recruiting this year might be difficult due to the postseason ban, but who says Calhoun can't talk a 2014 recruit into playing for him for a year, making a run, and entering the draft? How is that different from what Drummond just did?

Believe it or not, the current roster is not far away from contending. Shabazz, Calhoun, Boatright, and Evans make up one of the best backcourts in the country. Daniels has the potential to turn himself into a classic UConn wing if he develops his body. Giffey's going to be a three year player who knows the ins and outs of the league and won't have to be looking over his shoulder all the time. Olander's going to be a junior, he should be serviceable. Next summer, I see no reason we won't be sitting here discussing a 2014 National Championship run. Calhoun's on the two year plan right now: Lean on his backcourt next season, surprise some people, sit there on selection sunday and mock everybody they beat, add a big man or two to an already strong supporting cast, and then win his fourth title on his way out. You can get on board with that plan now or get the *k out.

 

[Connrack]

How is the current situation any different than last year when he landed Daniels, Drummond, etc?

Drummond was always going to UConn, if he was going to college, as assuredly as Skylar Diggins was going to Notre Dame to play women's basketball. Daniels has a lot to prove. I have no idea what kind of player he will eventually be. He's certainly not a top-ten recruit. In fact, I don't consider him a Calhoun-type player. And I like the moxie of Boatright, but it's too early to tell if he was a top-50 recruit or a top-150 recruit upon entry into Uconn.

 

[djct1999]

i like the optimism champs.......unfortunately, the way i see it, i dont get the 2010 comparrison one bit. first, i dont think its fair to speculate about coach's health or talk about it, but i really dont see him coaching beyond this contract. second, take an unbiased, unemotional look at where we currently stand....our frontcourt hinges on a hope and prayer we land hayes and bradley comes back....does that not sound dire to you? atleast, i can agree on how dynamic our backcourt will be. cant wait to see bazz, boat, and calhoun light it up!!!! maybe we can go back to the full court press. i have been waiting years for that!