It is time to surrender

[nelsonmuntz]

UConn is in the crosshairs, and it can not win this fight. The NCAA is at war with UConn, passing retro-active APR rules and dropping the hammer on UConn for text messages to a player that never showed up on campus. Calipari has the highest profile street agent in the country working as a conduit for passing money to recruits, EVERYONE knows it, and no one cares.

It is hard not to connect this battle to the conference fight UConn is losing. It certainly feels like the NCAA is working on behalf of the major conference programs to crush UConn, the highest profile "outsider" program in the country.

Right and wrong no longer matter. Might makes right, and UConn is hopelessly outgunned. It is time to surrender publicly to the NCAA. No more appeals, no more fights, certainly no lawsuits. Just take our medicine, beg forgiveness, and shut up. We can only hope that the objective of the NCAA is a year's punishment and not the complete marginalization of our basketball program.

 

[willie99]

I don't agree, it's time to go on the attack and at least expose as much of their bullsh!t as we can possibly expose

to date, we've been in an kissing mode

 

[hoopsknowitall]

I don't agree, it's time to go on the attack and at least expose as much of their bullsh!t as we can possibly expose

to date, we've been in an kissing mode

Agreed. Empty whatever is in the arsenal at an organization that caters to the powerful and picks on what it perceives to be the weak.

 

[UCFBfan]

I don't agree, it's time to go on the attack and at least expose as much of their bullsh!t as we can possibly expose

to date, we've been in an kissing mode

But honestly, what is it going to prove. So they throw out all these facts about the NCAA and how it's corrupt. You don't think Ohio St or USC considered doing the same thing when they got hit with b.s. penalties. If those two schools don't do anything and have deeper pockets, what makes you think UConn will accomplish anything. Look, I wanna fight this as much as the next guy, but what will be the end result? A huge dump of money into something Manuel and Herbst probably know is not going to produce anything?

 

[willie99]

neither of those two schools were punished by retroactive rules, neither of those schools suffered double jeopardy

USC was caught paying athletes, and their hoops coach was suspended or would have been suspended. Their football coach swam away like a Squid. That's a horrible analogy.

Ohio St was caught with petty violations, I concur. Their football coach got in trouble for trying to cover things up. Kinda like Nixon and Watergate, the cover-up did him in.

We paid the consequences for the crime we committed based on the law at the time the "kids transferred" or "dropped out", and there is no money involved anywhere in our case.

 

[auggie22]

the best approach in my opinion is for ct to lie down. save your resources, take a step back, get stronger, and then fight the battle they need to fight. invest in research, facilities and improved academics, pretty up, polish up the brand, and find a powerful suitor. don't forget. and when, a few years from now, we have the opportunity to join our powerful new friends in saying f*9k you to the NCAA, we thank Emmert and his chronies, with a wink, for making us better.

 

[SubbaBub]

If x = promised invite to new conference, then y= surrender, else fight.

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[Waquoit]

I think it's pretty obvious that UConn has surrendered already.

 

[uconnfan68]

the best approach in my opinion is for ct to lie down. save your resources, take a step back, get stronger, and then fight the battle they need to fight. invest in research, facilities and improved academics, pretty up, polish up the brand, and find a powerful suitor. don't forget. and when, a few years from now, we have the opportunity to join our powerful new friends in saying f*9k you to the NCAA, we thank Emmert and his chronies, with a wink, for making us better.

All this assumes there will be a break from the NCAA. What are the odds that happens?

 

[willie99]

obvious they already surrendered? not even sure what would make one conclude that

is it "because they did, and it's obvious"?

 

[Dann]

acc stole my shirt and the ncaa stole my undies

 

[hoopsknowitall]

"You can't hold a whole college responsible for the behavior of a few, sick twisted individuals. For if you do, then shouldn't we blame the whole college basketball system? And if the whole basketball system is guilty, then isn't this an indictment of our educational institutions in general? I put it to you, NCAA - isn't this an indictment of our entire American society? Well, you can do whatever you want to us, but we're not going to sit here and listen to you badmouth the United States of America and UCONN. Gentlemen! "

 

[Durks07]

The way that uconn has been punished by the NCAA has been appalling. Starting with the horrible way they suspended Boatright twice in the same season for the same issue (thats double jeopardy), and ending with retroactively applying the new APR rules to Uconn after them losing scholarships because of it. The mob doesn't even pursue its vendettas this vigorously.

 

[Waquoit]

obvious they already surrendered? not even sure what would make one conclude that

is it "because they did, and it's obvious"?

I can turn that around. What makes you think they haven't?

 

[willie99]

I can turn that around. What makes you think they haven't?

because the appeal rejection is less than 24 hours old

not sure what one might expect them to do in that time frame, especially with half the country not even working today

 

[UConnDad]

It is now time for our AG to take action. We have exhausted our appeals. The next step is to file suit against the NCAA as a whole and Emmert as an individual. There is justification and precedence for this course. Is there the courage and fortitude to represent the students and citizens ot the great state of Connecticut? Let's see if Dick Blumenthal's successor has what it takes! I for one will be monitoring the situation closely.

 

[RuffRuff]

Sadly, what may clear the air sooner rather than later would be Calhoun retiring. This chip the NCAA has on it's shoulder is likely much more with him than it is the University. New coach = new slate. In particular if that coach is outside of the Uconn family(Shaka Smart).

Calhoun is not winning another national title at Uconn - for all those preaching that is the way to shut them up, ain't happening. Or at least highly likely it ain't happening. The guy has two years max, certainly ain't winning one next year and will have a hard time reloading with top level recruits for the following.

It's been a crazy few years for Uconn fans. A LOT of bad drama, a lot of ammo to all those that call the place Uconnvict - the one VERY big saving grace is that 3rd national title. But maybe it is time to start hedging against the future a bit - you have to think the administration is thinking that way.

 

[Hoophound]

Sadly, what may clear the air sooner rather than later would be Calhoun retiring. This chip the NCAA has on it's shoulder is likely much more with him than it is the University. New coach = new slate. In particular if that coach is outside of the Uconn family(Shaka Smart).

Calhoun is not winning another national title at Uconn - for all those preaching that is the way to shut them up, ain't happening. Or at least highly likely it ain't happening. The guy has two years max, certainly ain't winning one next year and will have a hard time reloading with top level recruits for the following.

It's been a crazy few years for Uconn fans. A LOT of bad drama, a lot of ammo to all those that call the place Uconnvict - the one VERY big saving grace is that 3rd national title. But maybe it is time to start hedging against the future a bit - you have to think the administration is thinking that way.

You might be chastised for that comment but it is certainly reasonable but if a succession plan is put in place, you may be wrong. However, if JC is really only sticking around a couple years and then a national search will begin, recruiting will be tough. I like the idea of either 1. Naming Ollie successor or 2. JC retiring soon with a quiet inquiry to guys like Smart and Stevens to see if there is interest so that a plan might be put in place. An announcement of retirement and the new coach at the same time would be awesome and keep us going full speed ahead but that is probably pie in the sky.

 

[Da_Aisijimo_Gou]

"Bonjour, you cheese-eating surrender monkey." "Surrender? Did Waylon say surrender? No, neither Groundskeeper Willie nor Bluto would have any none of that Franco roll-over acceptance. Nothing is over until we decide it is! Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

 

[freescooter]

I don't totally agree with Waylon's analysis, though I think it has elements of reality to it. I actually think that this situation has much more to do with timing than anything else. Unfortunately, UCONN came along just as the NCAA was being blasted as a bunch of fools for letting Ohio State off the hook, then letting Cam Newton off the hook. UCONN was a big fish, it was basketball, not football, and it gave the NCAA a chance to show how tough it was and how it wouldn't "back down" when faced with a big time program any more (as long as th ebig time program was a basketball program). Unfortunately UCONN gave them all the ammunition they needed.

 

[Marty Jackson]

Uconn did not lose 2 scholarships because of the APR. They lost those scholarships because the had 2 players leave while not in good academic standings. The initial penalty for not meeting the APR requirments was a public notification.