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Jimmy Serrano said:
I always found it ironic that that one legit knock on Edsall (his record against top 25 teams) was the one thing that was mostly ignored by his critics.
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How many wins has he garnered against top 25 schools since he left? Cause that record was obviously caused by him being at UConn and not his coaching, it seems.
 
SubbaBub said:
I don't think the expectations are much more than that. Win 7-8 consistently, compete for and win conference, make some top 25 noise and win some bigger games.

If that's not the minimum goal, then what are we doing?
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The goal now, has to include to be in contention to get the highest ranking in the group of 5. Good paying job, great facilities, the coach has to over come the infertile recruiting ground argument.
 
SubbaBub said:
I don't think the expectations are much more than that.
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Exactly. Edsall parlayed an 8-win season that included a pasting by Temple into his dream job.
 
Waquoit said:
Exactly. Edsall parlayed an 8-win season that included a pasting by Temple into his dream job.
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Again with the Temple game. Ugh.
 
J187Money said:
Right. But Football people don't seem to really care about anything other than Football. And even a place like Indiana draws more than 40K/game and they rarely win. Part of that is probably fans of the away teams since most of the B1G schools are B1G draws, but they drew 40K for Indiana State for their home opener (which was also a Thursday night - the same night that Towson beat us). It is clearly better than any MAC of CUSA job just given the size of the school, the facilities, and what we can pay. It just isn't automatically better than even a low-end B1G job, which is what guys like Lembo are aspiring to.
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I'm not sure about any of that. I think football guys, if they are looking at somewhere other than Notre Dame, Michigan, Texas and so forth, also look to see if they can be successful and they'll try and gauge that by looking at how supportive the school will be of their undertakings. If you want to compete at a high level are you likely to get the tools you need? And compared to lots of places the answer is that at UConn you'll get that support. When the AD says we're looking for someone with "private school experience" you know he's going to ask you to go without, whether it be certain facilities, or admission concessions or whatever. I think it probably is better than a low end Big, in part because with success, which is more likely, you can end up at a high end Big. At Indiana, you're looking at a nice run that end with you either as a DC at a major program or a talking head on ESPN. On the other hand, of course, if you don't succeed at UConn you may end up on ESPN3 doing sideline reports...
 
Bloomington is pop. 90k with half of them students. IU system is 110K+... +Indianapolis.
 
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I'm actually very surprised to hear Indiana's attendance numbers this year. 40k plus their lowest total against Indiana State? Not bad.
 
I am to the point where I will be surprised if Weist does not get the job. Especially if we clobber Memphis.
 
Jimmy Serrano said:
I'm actually very surprised to hear Indiana's attendance numbers this year. 40k plus their lowest total against Indiana State? Not bad.
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So was I.
 
whaler11 said:
I think the underrated challenge with the job is the expectations of the fanbase. It's certainly a job with a lot of potential but when you've got almost no natural recruiting grounds, locally have to compete with Big 10 and ACC programs for players and very little tradition to sell - the definition of short and medium term success needs to be calibrated correctly.

Winning 7-8 games a year consistently and growing from there is success. Expecting anyone to make UConn nationally relevant in the near term is ridiculous.
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Success is nothing less than winning the AAC routinely. Because Looking too good to ignore, and getting plucked out of this conference is the endstate we want.

Replicating Edsall's mediocre record in a worse conference isn't going to get us where we need to be.

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SubbaBub said:
I don't think the expectations are much more than that. Win 7-8 consistently, compete for and win conference, make some top 25 noise and win some bigger games.

If that's not the minimum goal, then what are we doing?
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whaler11 said:
Weird how despised Edsall was by many then isn't it?
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Not really. He was a complete c67Ksu^&ker. And he had the personality of a broken surfboard. His 1980s era Penn State Offense set the conditions for this fiasco. Nice leaving us January when our idiot AD who couldn't find a football coach in a stadium if his life depended on it so that he ended up hiring two retread hacks who almost destroyed UConn Football.

Apologist.
 
ZooCougar said:
Nice leaving us January when our idiot AD who couldn't find a football coach in a stadium if his life depended on it so that he ended up hiring two retread hacks who almost destroyed UConn Football.

Apologist.
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Unfortunately, the jury is still out on the almost part.
 
The goal should be complete and utter domination of the conference by leveraging our supposed "immense resources".

7-8 wins ain't gonna cut. We need double digits and basketball scores and players that every kid in New England knows. Leave no doubt.

The last thing we need is a return to the risk averse Edsall days where we played to not lose.
 
ZooCougar said:
The goal should be complete and utter domination of the conference by leveraging our supposed "immense resources". 7-8 wins ain't gonna cut. We need double digits and basketball scores and players that every kid in New England knows. Leave no doubt. The last thing we need is a return to the risk averse Edsall days where we played to not lose.
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1000%. In this conference the bar should be how the WBB team abuses people with no shame.
 
IN front of our half filled 25,000 seat stadium we are going nowhere even if we are 20-0. Get used to the AAC.
 
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rich1122 said:
IN front of our half filled 25,000 seat stadium we are going nowhere even if we are 20-0. Get used to the AAC.
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Are things really that miserable for you? It was a cute joke for the first 450 - 500 times, once you repeated it 2,000 times it became annoying. Now that you've passed 5,000 it has become sad.
 
FfldCntyFan said:
Are things really that miserable for you? It was a cute joke for the first 450 - 500 times, once you repeated it 2,000 times it became annoying. Now that you've passed 5,000 it has become sad.
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It really is sad. We still have 22k, through the turnstiles during miserable season, on Thanksgiving weekend, on a freezing day. Get this back up to a respectable level, with entertaining football, and you'll see what this could become.
 
ZooCougar said:
The goal should be complete and utter domination of the conference by leveraging our supposed "immense resources".

7-8 wins ain't gonna cut. We need double digits and basketball scores and players that every kid in New England knows. Leave no doubt.

The last thing we need is a return to the risk averse Edsall days where we played to not lose.
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I actually agree with this completely. Only caution is that it will take a few years to get to that point. We want people to talk about UConn the way they talk about Boise in the MW. Always ranked. Dominate the conference (though this one is better than theirs), play for the conference title virtually every season and win it mostly.
 
freescooter said:
I actually agree with this completely. Only caution is that it will take a few years to get to that point. We want people to talk about UConn the way they talk about Boise in the MW. Always ranked. Dominate the conference (though this one is better than theirs), play for the conference title virtually every season and win it mostly.
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I think we can have a winning season, next season.
 
rich1122 said:
IN front of our half filled 25,000 seat stadium we are going nowhere even if we are 20-0. Get used to the AAC.
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As a hypothetical, you are correct. But if we get 20 wins in a row, with the likes of BYU, Boise, Tennessee on the schedule, we will be ranked, and we will fill the Rent pretty well. Now if UConn demonstrates that level of success, it doesn't guarantee a ticket to the ACC or B1G. But it is pretty much a requirement to getting an invitation, and it is good for UConn as a university regardless of conference affiliation, so it's something to shoot for if we can.
 
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ZooCougar said:
I think we can have a winning season, next season.
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I think it is possible too, but might be dependent on the coach. A guy like Lembo in my estimation will have us competitive quickly. In large measure that's been his MO. Clawson has taken longer, more of a rebuild the program from the ground up type of guy, I think. He has been successful over the long run, too. Narduzzi, who knows? He has not been a head coach so its hard to say what his approach will be. But my view is that UConn can't go 5 years without a bowl, so whoever comes in has a year to turn things around.

The other point, I guess, and I assume you get this, is that having a winning season next year doesn't equal getting to where we want the program going. It is a first step. That's all. We need to keep going forward from there.
 
ZooCougar said:
Not really. He was a complete c67Ksu^&ker. And he had the personality of a broken surfboard. His 1980s era Penn State Offense set the conditions for this fiasco. Nice leaving us January when our idiot AD who couldn't find a football coach in a stadium if his life depended on it so that he ended up hiring two retread hacks who almost destroyed UConn Football.

Apologist.
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Edsall responsibility for this fiasco: .005 percent

JH responsibility: 59.995

Phil Austin for no oversight of JH: 10

McHugh for forcing P on JH: 30

If Edsall had been properly managed by his AD he wouldn't have been such a d*ck. The way he left was unseemly but JH more or less dared him to leave and RE took him up on the offer. Then the real -train started when McHugh got involved in the hiring process and rolled the impotent JH.

Water under the bridge now I hope. Hoping by Wednesday we'll be toasting Warde/SH here.
 
ruskin said:
Edsall responsibility for this fiasco: .005 percent

JH responsibility: 59.995

Phil Austin for no oversight of JH: 10

McHugh for forcing P on JH: 30

If Edsall had been properly managed by his AD he wouldn't have been such a d*ck. The way he left was unseemly but JH more or less dared him to leave and RE took him up on the offer. Then the real -train started when McHugh got involved in the hiring process and rolled the impotent JH.

Water under the bridge now I hope. Hoping by Wednesday we'll be toasting Warde/SH here.
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Chances that you will still find a way bitch: 100%
 
junglehusky said:
As a hypothetical, you are correct. But if we get 20 wins in a row, with the likes of BYU, Boise, Tennessee on the schedule, we will be ranked, and we will fill the Rent pretty well. Now if UConn demonstrates that level of success, it doesn't guarantee a ticket to the ACC or B1G. But it is pretty much a requirement to getting an invitation, and it is good for UConn as a university regardless of conference affiliation, so it's something to shoot for if we can.[/quote


Unless we get something close to the MI game on a routine basis, who will take us? Take it from a guy who has been to every game. This last week people left early when WE were ii the lead. I mean if we think that we are going to the Bg1G with our fan base you are kidding yourself. Ohio State ain't com'n.

I hope that I am wrong. Fairfield City I apologize. I could not help myself.
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