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Message: [QUOTE="husky429, post: 3823596, member: 6696"] Personally, I wouldn't call Sanogo a + athlete--I'd call him really skilled and humongous with phenomenal hands and coordination. He doesn't run very fast or act as a vertical spacer by any means IMO. So I guess it depends how you define athleticism--we may be in agreement anyways because I do consider coordination, footwork, skill to be a part of your athleticism Totally agree that we're functional athleticism deficient right now outside of Martin and Whaley probably. But there's also skilled guards all over the country that aren't super athletic but are able to make plays at the rim. Plenty of them just in our conference. Athleticism and size just masks a lack of skill to an extent--which is probably why Martin is able to convert at the rim much better % than the other perimeter players despite his meatloaf hands. [/QUOTE]