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For many kids it is a dream to come to UConn. Let's face it at any given time there are 5 kids who start and 1 or 2 who are good enough to be starting but it just isn't their time yet. They have to wait for those upper classmen to serve out their eligibility in order to crack the starting line-up. For many of them they are lucky that Geno and his staff do a good job at spreading out the recruiting classes so that the wait is only one or two seasons at the most. In the meantime they must be content with playing significant minutes off the bench and learning Geno's system so they can be effective when they become starters.

For some they must be content to come to UConn and be a role player. It just isn't within them to crack the starting line-up with the steady stream of high school All Americans that Geno has coming to his program year after year. So, why do they do it? Some say it is for the privilege of learning from the master. Others say, it is to have an opportunity to be part of history and to be part of a winning tradition that competes for the final four every year and for national championships more than just about any other team in WCBB.

Whatever the reason we are blessed each year to have those players like Brianna Banks who stick with the program even though she could be a starter elsewhere and the prospects for being a starter at UConn, beyond someone getting hurt are not very good. So, we have players like Brianna, Kiah, Morgan and Saniya who would be starting for most every other program in the country if they transferred. They know they have the talent, they know that Geno thinks very highly of them. They also know all about the opportunity that is in front of them; to one day start for the best basketball team with the best coaching staff in the country. They are also very aware of those who have graduated from the UConn basketball program and what many of them have gone on to do. The list of accomplished graduates who have gone on to play ball in Europe, the WNBA and the Olympics is beyond impressive; it is actually getting to the point where the program is becoming legendary which, is really hard to do when the people who are creating that legend are still actively coaching.

Brianna has recently, had to step up and be a starter especially for those eight games when KML and Tuck were unable to play. With Dolson and Bria Hartley graduating there is a good chance that Brianna becomes a starter next year. Kiah or Tuck probably also. Saniya may have to wait another year while getting significant minutes as the first off the bench next year.

Still, there is another category of recruit...these recruits that stay all four years and are content to play as a role player, a reserve player, whose minutes come during the so-called garbage time when the starters and the front end of the bench have put the game out of reach for the other team. These players get into the game and they play for sheer enjoyment of the game. They try their best to run the sets they learned in practice and if they are lucky they will see their name in the box score for either scoring, rebounding, getting an assist or getting a steal. It is always thrilling for us fans as well as, the starters on the bench to see one of these recruits hit a three...to see a walk-on do it is just purely orgasmic to the fans who just can't seem to get enough. Watching Kiah off the bench grabbing every rebound in sight or conducting her own block party is inspirational. Or, seeing Brianna Banks get a steal and nobody on the court being able to catch her in the open court...who would have know that a short 11 months ago she tore her ACL. always gets the fans going.

But, there is also, unfortunately a fourth category of recruit...these are the kids who are talented enough to get Geno to accept them if they verbal to the program. These kids come in with the hopes that they are an undiscovered gem...shades of Maria Conlon. They play the hearts out but alas try as they do sometimes it just isn't enough to crack into the rotation of the roster of talented players who come to UConn. These kids really want to play and they know that if they have any aspirations of making it to the next level they have to be able to showcase their talents whatever they might be. Sometimes, it just isn't the right fit. So, in some cases they opt to transfer to another school. It is always heartbreaking when it happens and as much as we as fans might be upset with their decision we often realize that it is for the best. The good fans try to put on a good face and reach down in their hearts to wish them the best...and for the most part, a great many of the fans really mean it. After all, having worn the UConn jersey and played minutes for the Husky basketball team, they will always be part of the UConn family. We recently had two kids make that very tough decision...and we were all sad to see them both go...they were both great kids. I am speaking of Michala Johnson (Wisconsin Badgers) and Lauren Engeln (Boston College). We could see that these players were talented and that they probably could get significant minutes somewhere else. In Michala's case it was both a function of her slow recovery from injuries acquired late in her high school career and the fact that her sister was playing for the Wisconsin Badgers close to home. In Lauren Engeln's case she was a talented player who just wasn't fitting in with the UConn system and its roster of All Stars. So, how are they doing? Actually, they are both doing great...

Lauren Engeln - (on television yesterday): She has started in all 13 games this year and is averaging 31.8 minutes per game. She has shot the ball at .360 from the field making 41 out of 114 shots. Her three point shooting leaves something to be desired as she has only made 3 of 13 for a .231 percent. She has managed to get to the free throw line and has shot FTs at a .714 clip where she has made 20 of her 28 attempts. Lauren averages 8.1 points per game, 2.8 rebounds / G and one steal per game. Lauren has a team leading 51 assists, which is roughly about 4 assists per game while her turnovers are very low at 34 (little less than 3 per game) giving her a respectable Assists to Turnover Ratio of 1.5.

Michala Johnson - (on television tonight): Michala is having a fantastic year. She is happy playing near home with her sister and not only starting but actually is the star of the team. Michala is averaging 15.2 points per game, 8.4 rebounds per game, 1.4 assist per game, 1 block and 1 steal / G. Michala is shooting a very respectable .507 from the floor making 74 of her 146 attempts.

I know there are many on this board who join me in wishing these two former Husky players the very best in their careers and in expressing to them our gratitude for the contributions they made to our team while they wore the Husky Blue and White.
 
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For many kids it is a dream to come to UConn. Let's face it at any given time there are 5 kids who start and 1 or 2 who are good enough to be starting but it just isn't their time yet. They have to wait for those upper classmen to serve out their eligibility in order to crack the starting line-up. For many of them they are lucky that Geno and his staff do a good job at spreading out the recruiting classes so that the wait is only one or two season at the most. In the meantime they must be content with playing significant minutes off the bench and learning Geno's system so they can be effective when they become starters.

For some they must be content to come to UConn and be a role player. It just isn't within them to crack the starting line-up with the steady stream of high school All Americans that Geno has coming to his program year after year. So, why do they do it? Some say it is for the privilege of learning from the master. Others say, it is to have an opportunity to be part of history and to be part of a winning tradition that competes for the final four every year and for a championships more than just about any other team in WCBB history.

Whatever the reason we are blessed to have each year those players like Brianna Banks who stick with the program even though the prospects for being a starter beyond someone getting hurt are not very good. So, we have players like Brianna, Kiah, Morgan and Saniya who would be starting for most every other program in the country if they transferred. They know they have the talent, they know that Geno thinks very highly of them. They also know the opportunity that is in front of them to one day start for the best basketball team with the best coaching staff in the country. They also know what graduates from the UConn program have gone on to do. The list of accomplished graduates who have gone on to play ball in Europe, the WNBA and the Olympics is beyond impressive it is actually getting to the point where the program is becoming a legend which is really hard to do when the people who are creating the legend are still actively coaching.

Brianna has had to step up and be a starter especially for those eight games when KML and Tuck were unable to play. With Dolson and Bria Hartley graduating there is a good chance that Brianna becomes a starter next year. Kiah and Tuck probably also. Saniya may have to wait another year while getting significant minutes as the first off the bench next year.

Another category of recruit...these recruits stay all four years and are content to play as a role player a reserve player, whose minutes come during the so-called garbage time when the starters and the front end of the bench have put the game out of reach for the other team. These players get into the game and they play for sheer enjoyment of the game. They try their best to run the sets they learn in practice and if they are lucky they will see their name in the box score for either scoring, rebounding, or getting a steal. It is always thrilling for the audience to see these recruits hit a three...

But, there is also, unfortunately a fourth category of recruit...these are the kids who are talented enough to get Geno to accept them if they verbal to the program. These kids come in with the hopes that they are an undiscovered gem...shades of Maria Conlon. They play the hearts out but alas try as they do sometimes it just isn't enough to crack into the rotation of the roster of talented players who come to UConn. So, in some cases they opt to transfer to another school. It is always heartbreaking when it happens and as much as we as fans might be upset with their decision we often realize that it is for the best. The good fans try to put on a good face and reach down in their hearts to wish them the best...and for the most part most of the fans really mean it. After all, having worn the UConn jersey and played minutes for the Husky basketball team, they will always be part of the UConn family. We recently had two kids make that very tough decision...and we were all sad to see them both go...they were both great kids. I am speaking of Michala Johnson (Wisconsin Badgers) and Laura Engeln (Boston College). We could see that these players were talented and that they probably could get significant minutes somewhere else. In Michala's case it was both a function of her slow recovery from injuries acquired late in her high school career and the fact that her sister was playing for the Wisconsin Badgers close to home. In Laura Engeln's case she was a talented player who just wasn't fitting in with the UConn system and its roster of All Stars. So, how are they doing? Actually, they are both doing great...

Laura Engeln - (on television yesterday): She has started in all 13 games this year and is averaging 31.8 minutes per game. She has shot the ball at .360 from the field making 41 out of 114 shots. Her three point shooting leaves something to be desired as she has only made 3 of 13 for a .231 percent. She has managed to get to the free throw line and has shot FTs at a .714 clip where she has made 20 of her 28 attempts. Laura averages 8.1 points per game, 2.8 rebounds / G and one steal per game. Laura has a team leading 51 assists, which is roughly about 4 assists per game while her turnovers are very low at 34 (little less than 3 per game) giving her a respectable Assists to Turnover Ratio of 1.5.

Michala Johnson - (on television tonight): Michala is having a fantastic year. She is happy playing near home with her sister and not only starting but actually is the star of the team. Michala is averaging 15.2 points per game, 8.4 rebounds per game, 1.4 assist per game, 1 block and 1 steal / G. Michala is shooting a very respectable .507 from the floor making 74 of her 146 attempts.

I know there are many on this board who join me in wishing these two former Husky players the very best in their careers and in expressing to them our gratitude for the contributions they made to our team while they wore the Husky Blue and White.

Lots to think about for the four in-coming "guards".
 

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Really nice post. Geno and Uconn is definitely not for everyone - I think the coaches do a good job of identifying whether a player will trive at Uconn regardless of talent level, but it is never perfect. You look at a player like Gardler who never had the talent to be a starter at Uconn but thrived here and contributed valuable minutes and went on to enjoy European professional BB and realize it isn't all about talent. Same with the Valley sisters.
And I do really wish former players well when they leave.
 
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Lots to think about for the four in-coming "guards".
No idea how Geno is going to balance playing time next year. That's 11 scholarship players. Have to wonder if he almost anticipates transfers in his plans. Only 40% remained from his last big class. If Lawlor and Pulido stay, that's 13 - a bigger team than Geno likes. Though the team does graduate Mosqueda-Lewis, Stokes, and Banks next year.
 

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Thanks for the nice comments everyone...looking forward to the Central Florida game now that the rust is gone and we can get back to business. Happy New Year everyone!!!
 
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Nice post. I'll watch these two players. I think Wisconsin was on last night but I didn't watch it or DVR it.
 

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Thanks for a great lunch time read (and the perspective check!) Happy New Year to you and yours!
 
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Speaking of Lauren Engeln, she also has a sister that plays guard. If you ever see one or the other it's hard to tell them apart though I don't know if they are twins.
 

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Speaking of Lauren Engeln, she also has a sister that plays guard. If you ever see one or the other it's hard to tell them apart though I don't know if they are twins.


Yes, this is true Lauren's twin sister Ashley only 5'6", Jr. point guard, plays for Concordia University Irvine. She has started 2 of the 9 games this season... She averages 6.1 points / game; 2.7 rebounds / game; and 1.5 assists / game. A / TO ration = 1.1.

Ashley has one brother (Anthony 23) and one sister (Lauren)…Twin sister Lauren played basketball at University of Connecticut and now plays basketball at Boston College…Majoring in business with a minor in spots management…Professional goal after graduation is to be successful…Enjoys playing basketball, talking to her twin sister, sky diving, and going on adventures.
 
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what michala and lauren did took a great deal of courage . transferring is never easy,and to transfer basketball programs is that much more difficult. i think more players(including players from uconn) would do it if the process wasn't so hard. the player has to have a whole lot of confidence in her game, and know that they want more than mop-up minutes, even at a program like uconn's. i've been very impressed by the determination of these two young women to find a way to really play the game they love.
 
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what michala and lauren did took a great deal of courage . transferring is never easy,and to transfer basketball programs is that much more difficult. i think more players(including players from uconn) would do it if the process wasn't so hard. the player has to have a whole lot of confidence in her game, and know that they want more than mop-up minutes, even at a program like uconn's. i've been very impressed by the determination of these two young women.
You have to put Samarie Walker in that category as well. She's done well at Kentucky and was the first of the Johnson/Engeln/Dolson/Hartley class to transfer. Hard to believe that class is graduating already.
 

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I don't put Samarie in that category because it was "The Way" she left the program. She left in the middle of the season leaving her team and coaching staff in a lurch. Sure it worked out okay for UConn but it was extremely difficult situation. Both Lauren and Michaela left at the end of a season with the blessings of the coaching staff. There is a right way and a wrong way to do things and in my opinion while Samarie has the right to make decisions that are in her best interest she also has a moral responsibility to do things the right way...after all UConn did give her about $40,000.00 of free education. There should be a reasonable expectation for her to finish the season if she plans to transfer.
 

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Again great OP.
I find some of the comments to be a typical refrain that I frankly don't much care for. This idea that all players should be getting major minutes as freshman or should be transferring everywhere and Geno is going to have a hard time next year because he will have eleven or maybe even twelve scholarship players?! Please! Talk to the teams with 15 scholarship players - 11/12 is a very good number for a team (See Olympics/pros) and yes ... that means that freshman are not likely to get 30 minutes a game, and some upper class players may not either. But they will all be getting excellent coaching in a program that treats them very well at a good university where their tuition room and board are being covered by their scholarship. And they will be practicing and playing with a great group of women who they will likely be friends with for the rest of their lives. And their prospects of furthering their careers in basketball are higher at Uconn than anywhere else in the country. Kaili probably never averaged more than 20 minutes a game during her 4 years but has been a star in Greece. Gardler never was project as a pro from HS days, but spent at least a few years playing professional basketball in Sweden and based on a few tweets that were reported here seemed to be having a blast! And then there are the players who never made AA status but carved out good careers in the WNBA while many of the AAs in their college years lasted only a year or two.
I am very happy for Lauren and Michala and I agree they followed a protocol that made their leaving organized. (Though I do not blame EDD or Samarie, just don't have as warm a regard for them.) They realized Uconn was not for them and they went elsewhere - good for them and good for Uconn. But Also good for Heather and the Valley sisters, and all the other players who had a great 4+ years at Uconn playing on great teams with great people.
And just think ... Maria Conlon got 83 minutes TOTAL her freshman year - less than 3 minutes a game. Thankfully she stuck around even though she was obviously just a bench player. Her sophomore year she got lots of mop up minutes and raised her average to over 15 min and won an NC. And then she proved to be more than anyone thought and was instrumental in winning another two.
 

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Samarie left in the middle of the season leaving her team and coaching staff in a lurch.
Agree

Sure it worked out okay for UConn but it was extremely difficult situation.[/quote]

I guess okay is a relative term. We made the final four that year but lost to ND when Stef got into early foul trouble and we didn't have the size to compete with them on the boards. Samarie certainly could have made a difference in that game and regardless UConn would have been favored against Texas A&M. Potential loss of a National Championship in my book.
 
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