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Message: [QUOTE="newfrontier, post: 2985108, member: 8141"] I suggested something roughly similar on this board yesterday/last night (in Sundays Games (+thread?)), so I agree with you. Of course some folks could point to the Michigan State win over number 3 Oregon as part of a counter argument, but it looks more and more like a fluke win after Michigan State lost twice to un-ranked teams last week. IMO, Minnesota, Maryland, Iowa, and even Michigan State are overrated (and I say this despite being a Michigan State alum.) [/QUOTE]